I would say this applies to creatures that are currently flying, not ones that can fly (but are not).
Good question. I would tend to Claxon's version but I'm not entirely sure.
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To quote from another thread:
I'm picturing a Dwarf drill sergeant. "If it flies, hit it! If it doesn't fly, throw it in the air and hit it!"
To quote from another thread:
I'm picturing a Dwarf drill sergeant. "If it flies, hit it! If it doesn't fly, throw it in the air and hit it!"
Heh, I am so imagining a dwarven barbarian tossing a goblin into the air for some skeet practice...using another goblin as an improvised weapon.
Good question. I would tend to Claxon's version but I'm not entirely sure.My initial reaction was that it applied to anything with a fly speed because it would make more sense to be good at fighting against monsters with wings than actual fliers. An eagle is a flying creature even if it's on the ground at the particular moment, it would be incredibly strange if it was 1 foot off the ground and I got the bonuses but it landed and I lost them but now I'm not so sure that's the case.
You are right.
But there are examples in the opposite direction, too. Imagine a mage who is flying via the fly spell. With our reading you would get a bonus vs him because he is flying. But I can't see a reason to get a bonus vs him just because he has memorizes his fly spell.
I agree with Claxon.
If we have "creatures that are flying", "flying creatures", and "creatures that can fly",
it seems the most conservative reading is "creatures that are flying",
grammatically they are the closest, using the same tense just re-ordering the words,
and if it meant the latter, there is a direct rules term "with a fly speed" as well as "that can fly"
which would cover that, and given this is rules text, choosing not to use a rules term should be significant.
That isn't 100% or anything, but barring a FAQ from Paizo, that seems the most likely or conservative reading.
Think of it as your dwarf knows how to predict the movement of creatures in the to better attack them and avoid there attacks. But that training doesn't help on the ground, where you're not actually familiar with fighting them (because most flying opponents don't land willing).
Think of it as your dwarf knows how to predict the movement of creatures in the to better attack them and avoid there attacks. But that training doesn't help on the ground, where you're not actually familiar with fighting them (because most flying opponents don't land willing).
Good point.
Undone: But would it be ok for you to get a bonus vs a wizard standing there with flight spell up but not vs the same wizard standing there but without the spell?
That flying creatures move in a certain way that is predictable for sky sentinels is the best point up to now.
I left out the word air and the -ly from willingly, but you seem to have gotten my point. I'm typing on my phone and it doesnt play nicely with paizo's website.