Hey I was looking for some input on this,
I'm playing a Lawful Good Samsaran Reincarnated Oracle Archetype, and I just reached fourth level. Thus so I now have access to 2nd level spells. I really like the spell Spiritual Weapon.
My real question that comes with this is that it says that the force weapon is a copy of your deity's personal weapon, but my problem is that as an Oracle, I do not have one single deity. I draw my powers from several different ones. So not having one, I am not entirely sure which weapon I would have formed for me when I cast the spell.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
At the end of the spell it lists what form it takes if you have no deity based on alignment. For a Lawful Good character, it would be a Warhammer for good or a Longsword for Law. You choice as to which.
Ah, that makes sense. Thank you.
The spell was written assuming that only a cleric would cast it. When you're seeing non clerics casting that spell, you need a bit of mental flexibility to deal with it.
The FAR more serious issue with the spell as written, is that the spell is hard coded to Wisdom for it's attack bonuses, which is not great news for our charisma based Oracle.
I have the trait for Samsarans Mystic Past Life that allows me to choose a few spells outside of my class list (Cleric/Oracle); however, seeing as this spell is a Cleric and Oracle spell, I don't think my character would have any problem at all casting it.
I also consulted our GM about the Wisdom modifier and this spell, and it was ruled that even though the spell was written for a Cleric originally, it would be allowed that as an Oracle using it, I am allowed to use my Charisma modifier instead of Wisdom.
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LazarX beat me to it. It's been asked in the past for this spell to be changed to use your primary casting stat, instead of always wisdom, and Paizo staff have said no.
Ask your GM if you can house rule it to use charisma, but as written, this spell really sucks for oracles. Which is a shame, because it's a great spell for clerics. One of these days, I want to make a cleric with Magical Lineage: Spiritual Weapon and Toppling Metamagic.
LazarX beat me to it. It's been asked multiple times in the recent/post-Oracle past for this spell to be changed to use your primary casting stat, instead of always wisdom, and Paizo rules/dev team have said no.
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One of the weirdest decisions to choose RAW over a sensible errata, and one of very few times I didn't agree w/ a ruling in anyway. Since when they made it they added a note to their own ruling that casting stat was a fine houserule, I don't even think they liked the ruling, just seemed like they were fighting an errata at all cost.
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The idea is to keep the Core Rulebook self contained without references to things outside of it, hence that ruling.
I also from personal experiences would suggest not being too enamored with it. It swings versus real AC and against a lot of foes it's extremely useless from what I've seen of having them swarming about uselessly wiffing at enemies.
I also from personal experiences would suggest not being too enamored with it. It swings versus real AC and against a lot of foes it's extremely useless from what I've seen of having them swarming about uselessly wiffing at enemies.
I like the spell merely in the fact that my Oracle build is certainly not at all the most battle oriented, so this spell gives me much better chances to do damage (My normal to hit with melee being +3 at 4th to the spells +7 using my CHA modifier)
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I'd suggest something like Sound Burst might be more bang for your buck, but that's still more due to my dislike over Spiritual Weapon then anything.
My paladin trying to hold off a huge earth elemental while clerics sit safely away casting that stupid spell. Force weapons harmlessly chinking off of it's stoney hide.
It takes a long time to saw through one of those things with just a longsword and no help at all form any cleric in 200 feet because they all want to cast spiritual weapon so much. -.-
I'd suggest something like Sound Burst might be more bang for your buck, but that's still more due to my dislike over Spiritual Weapon then anything.
My paladin trying to hold off a huge earth elemental while clerics sit safely away casting that stupid spell. Force weapons harmlessly chinking off of it's stoney hide.
It takes a long time to saw through one of those things with just a longsword and no help at all form any cleric in 200 feet because they all want to cast spiritual weapon so much. -.-
Seems to me like you've just had bad experiences with people and this spell. Haha
I play an Oracle who tends to try to buff and heal the front line fighters as much as I can, but there isn't always something I can do to help so I just want the option to have more attacks when needed. I am drawn to the fact that I can get 4 attacks off with it per 1 cast. I do definitely predict myself using most of my daily spell allotment on the newly acquired Cure Moderate on the party. But having the option to be more useful in combat is definitely ideal.
