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Grand Lodge 1/5

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Is this Feat available to Aasimar?

Shadow Lodge

Is an Aasimar a human? if not, no. I think if you have Scion of Humanity Alternate Racial Trait, you are still an Aasimar, so I don't think you can take human only feats. You are a humanoid human, like humans, but Drows are Humanoid Elves and so are Elves. Drows don't qualify for Elf only Feats, so Aasimars don' t qualify for human only feats.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

My take is that if you have a subtype, such as from the Scion of Humanity aasimar trait, or the Orc Bloodline for sorcerors, then you count as that creature for accessing feats etc. The racial heritage human feat allows access to the feats of another race and it doesn't even change your subtype, so it would be strange if gaining the subtype didn't.

Grand Lodge 2/5 RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Scion of Humanity explicitly states that it works for feat prereqs, so that will let you take Fast Learner. Otherwise, no.

Shadow Lodge

It does? That gives me an idea for a wizard...

Silver Crusade 2/5

You can pic the trait Adopted and then take Fast Learner.

Adopted: Category Basic (Social)
You were adopted and raised by someone not of your race, and raised in a society not your own. As a result, you picked up a race trait from your adoptive parents and society, and may immediately select a race trait from your adoptive parents’ race.

The Exchange 5/5 RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

Haco, Fast Learner is a Feat restricted to humans, not a race trait.

Shadow Lodge

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Normally an Aasimar with scion of Humanity would be able to qualify for this feat, however.

Additional Resources wrote:

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Advanced Race Guide

To create an dhampir, fetchling, goblin, ifrit, kitsune, nagaji, oread, sylph, undine, or wayang character, you must have a Chronicle sheet that opens the race as a legal option at character creation.
Note: Alternate racial traits, racial archetypes, racial evolutions, racial feats, and racial spells are only available for characters of the associated race. Racial equipment and magic items can be purchased and used by any race as long as the specific item permits it (for example, only halflings can purchase and use solidsmoke pipeweed).
The new alchemist discovery on page 44 is legal for play for characters of all races.

Since the feat is from the Advanced Race Guide it is subject to additional rules in PFS and can only ever be taken by the race it is associated with, even though an Aasimar could qualify for the feat by RAW.


Or more practically, just take Toughness instead and put your favored class point in skills. Unless you were also going to take Toughness it's a better choice.

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ArmouredMonk13 wrote:
Is an Aasimar a human? if not, no. I think if you have Scion of Humanity Alternate Racial Trait, you are still an Aasimar, so I don't think you can take human only feats. You are a humanoid human, like humans, but Drows are Humanoid Elves and so are Elves. Drows don't qualify for Elf only Feats, so Aasimars don' t qualify for human only feats.

Normally, yes, but not in PFS--feats (etc) in the ARG are restricted by race specifically. ("Alternate racial traits, racial archetypes, racial evolutions, racial feats, and racial spells are only available for characters of the associated race.")

Shadow Lodge

thejeff wrote:


Or more practically, just take Toughness instead and put your favored class point in skills. Unless you were also going to take Toughness it's a better choice.

But toughness doesn't qualify you for improvisation.

Grand Lodge 1/5

So, Scion of Humanity gives you nothing? And you lose a language (Celestial) and you open yourself to spells that target humans.

Is that about it? Its a Racial Trait that costs you but gives you zilch?

Shadow Lodge

It will qualify you for human only feats in books other then the ARG.

But opening youself up to spells that target humans isn't always a bad thing, Aasimar cannot normally be targeted by Enlarge Person for example.

Grand Lodge 1/5

So, in return you get access to human only feats, that are not in ARG?

Now does anyone know how many 'Human Only' feats there are, outside of the ARG?

Shadow Lodge

Eric Saxon wrote:

So, Scion of Humanity gives you nothing? And you lose a language (Celestial) and you open yourself to spells that target humans.

Is that about it? Its a Racial Trait that costs you but gives you zilch?

It'll give you access to human racial options from earlier books (there's one or two in the Advanced Player's Guide, such as the Eclectic feat) that don't have that restriction, but yeah, that alternate racial trait kinda got neutered in PFS.


Scion of Humanity has the power of a feat.
The feat Pass for Human (APG) gives half-elves, half-orcs, and halflings (with the childlike feat) the following:

"You receive a +10 bonus on Disguise checks to disguise yourself as a human, and do not receive the penalty for disguising yourself as a member of another race when you do so. In areas largely populated or settled by humans, you can take 10 on your Disguise check, meaning most people tend to assume you are human unless given a reason to think otherwise."

Scion of Humanity allows Aasimar characters to Pass for Human without using the disguise skill. Scion of Humanity makes Aasimar half-humans that easily pass for human. The fact that they have darkvision and elemental resistance and Daylight and age differently means that they know they are different and if others know they are different might create prejudice. So, being able to pass as human is a pretty good deal for a "half-breed."

Cheers! :)

Dark Archive 4/5

Eric Saxon wrote:

So, Scion of Humanity gives you nothing? And you lose a language (Celestial) and you open yourself to spells that target humans.

Is that about it? Its a Racial Trait that costs you but gives you zilch?

It might be time to turn off the aggression Eric.

Just to open up enlarge person it may be worth it to some people. Alternatively, perhaps someone wants the ability to disguise themselves as a humanoid.

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Or reduce person in some cases!

The Exchange 5/5

I have two Alchemist PCs - one elf and one tiefling. The elf prepares reduce person a lot... it was a shock to discover the tiefling can't use it (my Elf alchemist uses it alot!)

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