Character advice Carrion crown campaign


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Silver Crusade

we are getting ready to start the Carrion crown AP. Im looking for advice on a character for the ap.Looking for a martial or partial caster.


So you are going to play Ravenlo . . . oh sorry Carrion Crown. Lots of undead gothic horror.

PALADIN

Silver Crusade

Been thinking about either a paladin or ranger lol or maybe even a inquistor. any build advice?


Honestly I have not played it yet. By reputation its lots of undead. If you are thinking of ranger because you like archery you might want to consider a Paladin Divine Hunter archetype.

Liberty's Edge

You'll get a lot of mileage out of a paladin for all the usual reasons vs undead and other less savory critters.

The adventure has a whole bunch of research and personal interaction with NPC's so an inquisitor is a great choice for their knowledge skills and sussing out lies and the like. You have a good amount of spells, and can do some really cool things with their teamwork feats. With an inquisitor you are a little more free with alignment/deity choices and as such are able to choose Pharasma, a deity from which you will see more than just a little interaction with the campaign.

Ranger is an awesome choice. The game has urban elements but you are running around the countryside of Ustalav more often than not. Those outdoor skills are handy to have in party.

I've run this AP with three different groups of people at this point. I had a paladin in the first group, a paladin and a ranger in the second and a ranger and an inquisitor in the third. No player has regretted their decisions to play those classes and all had a great time with the opportunities presented in the AP.

Good luck with your choice!


Yeah, lots of undead. Characters who do well are those with knowledge skills and abilities to crush undead. So if you go paladin you'll probably want to go along the lines of the undead scourge.

Not sure of the rest of your group's make-up so I'd probably suggest that if you want to go with a character that would be good in the AP who can be the face and/or skill monkey then go with a bard or sorcerer.

Give more information as to what your other party members are/how many/what level(s) and people can give you more information on specific builds that would complement your other party members.

Silver Crusade

I really appreciate all the advice. Party is starting out 1st lvl with 5 members. we have a oracle focusing on healing, a fighter, a evoker wiz and a a ninja. we are allowed 3 traits but one must be a campaign trait.


How are the fighter and ninja built out? Are either of them ranged?

If they aren't ranged at all, I'd probably suggest something like an elven bard with a longbow or a paladin divine hunter.

If the fighter is ranged, I'd say go with an undead scourge paladin and get right up in their faces and smite away the evil, being the party tank at the same time.

It seems that you just can't go wrong with a bard in this group though. You'll not be the superstar standout, but you will make everyone else really happy all the time. You'll also be the one who really shines in the social situations. I've heard that the Dirge Bard archetype is pretty dang good in this campaign too.

Silver Crusade

The fighter is a archer build.Really liking the paladin build. Any trait and feat suggestions?


Human Palidain 9 Sorcer 1 Dragon Disple 10
with
Focused Study: All humans are skillful, but some, rather than being generalists, tend to specialize in a handful of skills. At 1st, 8th, and 16th level, such humans gain Skill Focus in a skill of their choice as a bonus feat. This racial trait replaces the bonus feat trait.
Heal, Perception, and any of your choice.

Traits
Blood of Dragons: Long ago, your ancestors' blood mixed with that of dragons. Choose one of the following: gain a +1 trait bonus on Perception checks, gain low-light vision, or gain a +2 trait bonus on saving throws against effects that cause sleep or paralysis.

Magical Knack: You were raised, either wholly or in part, by a magical creature, either after it found you abandoned in the woods or because your parents often left you in the care of a magical minion. This constant exposure to magic has made its mysteries easy for you to understand, even when you turn your mind to other devotions and tasks. Pick a class when you gain this trait—your caster level in that class gains a +2 trait bonus as long as this bonus doesn't raise your caster level above your current Hit Dice.

With Eldritch Heritage chain(Celestial blood line or Destined blood line)
leadership (Young Gold Dragon)
Improved Familiar (Pseudodragon)
Craft Woundous item
Power Attack
Cleave
Combat Casting
Team work Outflank
Team Work Presisce Strike
Dragon Blood line Bonus feats Improved Initiative, Quicken Spell, & Toughness.


If I was building out an Undead Scourge Paladin, I'd go with Wiggz build at the bottom of this thread. It utilizes the Eldritch Heritage (Orc) bloodline and a big 2H weapon. I personally like the Falchion, but others like the Greatsword. It will basically give you a ton of strength, rage, and smiting. You'll completely crush any (especially undead) you run into.

Traits - At the very least, I'd make sure to grab Opportunistic Gambler if I could to allow my touch of rage to last an additional 1d4 rounds every time I use it.

Silver Crusade

very interesting build ub3r n3rd, i like it

Dark Archive

I hope our party works out.

We have just started a Carrion Crown campaign and nobody has paid any attention to party synergy or the hordes of undead.

We have:

2 Witches
1 Bard
1 Wizard
1 Fighter (thank goodness)
1 Sorcerer (me)

All the players are relative veterans, all of us are aware we won't be able to hit anything (we are level 1, still in Ravengro).

The vague idea seems to be trying to survive for a few levels then all fly around hiding with summoned monsters doing the difficult stuff.

Silver Crusade

any good trait suggestions?


Reactionary is good for and all characters for the +2 to initiative.


Tom S 820 wrote:

Human Palidain 9 Sorcer 1 Dragon Disple 10

with
Focused Study: All humans are skillful, but some, rather than being generalists, tend to specialize in a handful of skills. At 1st, 8th, and 16th level, such humans gain Skill Focus in a skill of their choice as a bonus feat. This racial trait replaces the bonus feat trait.
Heal, Perception, and any of your choice.

Traits
Blood of Dragons: Long ago, your ancestors' blood mixed with that of dragons. Choose one of the following: gain a +1 trait bonus on Perception checks, gain low-light vision, or gain a +2 trait bonus on saving throws against effects that cause sleep or paralysis.

Magical Knack: You were raised, either wholly or in part, by a magical creature, either after it found you abandoned in the woods or because your parents often left you in the care of a magical minion. This constant exposure to magic has made its mysteries easy for you to understand, even when you turn your mind to other devotions and tasks. Pick a class when you gain this trait—your caster level in that class gains a +2 trait bonus as long as this bonus doesn't raise your caster level above your current Hit Dice.

With Eldritch Heritage chain(Celestial blood line or Destined blood line)
leadership (Young Gold Dragon)
Improved Familiar (Pseudodragon)
Craft Woundous item
Power Attack
Cleave
Combat Casting
Team work Outflank
Team Work Presisce Strike
Dragon Blood line Bonus feats Improved Initiative, Quicken Spell, & Toughness.

I second this build, but without the teamwork feats.

Sczarni

How effective are high charisma wizard necromancers in this AP? Particularly after taking the Undead Mastery feat?

Silver Crusade

any undead hunter specific traits or traits that will mesh well with a paladin build?


If you want a paladin totally focused on hunting down undead, here are a couple of options:

Undead Scourge (paladin archetype)

Oath against Undeath -- not an archetype technically, but modifies your paladin abilities in much the same way.

You can't take both of these. They're mutually exclusive, because both replace the Aura of Resolve with something else.


After Reading player guide for Carrion Crown I would try this
Human Palidain 9 Sorcer 1 Dragon Disple 10

with
Focused Study: All humans are skillful, but some, rather than being generalists, tend to specialize in a handful of skills. At 1st, 8th, and 16th level, such humans gain Skill Focus in a skill of their choice as a bonus feat. This racial trait replaces the bonus feat trait.
Heal, Perception, and any of your choice.

Traits
Blood of Dragons: Long ago, your ancestors' blood mixed with that of dragons. Choose one of the following: gain a +1 trait bonus on Perception checks, gain low-light vision, or gain a +2 trait bonus on saving throws against effects that cause sleep or paralysis.

Magical Knack: You were raised, either wholly or in part, by a magical creature, either after it found you abandoned in the woods or because your parents often left you in the care of a magical minion. This constant exposure to magic has made its mysteries easy for you to understand, even when you turn your mind to other devotions and tasks. Pick a class when you gain this trait—your caster level in that class gains a +2 trait bonus as long as this bonus doesn't raise your caster level above your current Hit Dice.

With Eldritch Heritage chain(Ork blood line)
leadership (Young Gold Dragon)
Improved Familiar (Pseudodragon)
Craft Woundous item
Power Attack
Cleave
Combat Casting
Team work Outflank
Team Work Presisce Strike
Dragon Blood line Bonus feats Improved Initiative, Quicken Spell, & Toughness


If you do my build with the orc blood line you get +16 to STR,
+6 CON,+2 INT, +4 Natural Armor by level 20.
That mean you can start the game with 14 STR and end the game with a
30 STR with no items.

Casting 4th level wizard spells and 2nd level paladin spells.

lay on hand 4+ CHA with 3 mercys

Smiteing 3 times per day

Divine bond 2 time per day for +2

And if team work feat are not you then Arcane strike to get +3 damage.

HP are realy good if max first level then take 1/2+1 for the rest you end up with 142+(CON Mod *20)

Starting with STR of 14 DEX of 14 and CHA of 16 at level 20 you can pick a club but naked and have...
BaB +17 STR+15 CHA+3 size-1 with smiting ,arcance strike, and divine bond.
Club+44/+39/+34+29 1d8+21x2+holy 2d6 and Bite +39 1d8+21. with 10ft reach.
AC of 20 base10+4natural armor+2DEX+3CHA-1 size

That but naked with a stick!!!!!


I'd still go straight up paladin (undead scourge) with the eldritch heritage orc bloodline and realize the full powers of the paladin who crushes undead under his heels. I've never really been a big fan of the DD PrC personally, but that's just my personal preference.

Silver Crusade

thinking of a paladin with a oath against undeath build.

Silver Crusade

we have a 25 point build

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