Paragon Surge and Expanded Spell Knowledge: How does your PC know what spells exist?


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Would a Sorcerer need to put time into researching spells so that he can grab them with paragon surge when he needs them? Or would a spell craft check cover this per the spell identification rules?

I could see it working like this, Sorcerer finds a situation that he needs to solve, rolls a Spellcraft (15 + Spell Level) check to see if he knows of a spell that fits the situation, and then if he is successful he can cast paragon surge to get the spell.


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There is nothing in the rules that suggests this would be the case.


You just do, because Magic.


Seems strange, this would imply that every caster knows of the existence, and the effect, of every spell in the game.


Every spell listed on their lists, yes, at the very least.

Otherwise they would have to research to learn new spells at each level.

As they do not, your interpretation is obviously incorrect.


TaiSharShaidar wrote:

Would a Sorcerer need to put time into researching spells so that he can grab them with paragon surge when he needs them? Or would a spell craft check cover this per the spell identification rules?

I could see it working like this, Sorcerer finds a situation that he needs to solve, rolls a Spellcraft (15 + Spell Level) check to see if he knows of a spell that fits the situation, and then if he is successful he can cast paragon surge to get the spell.

It's undefined specifically by RAW, excepting that it applies a feat. Knowing that, and since it gives no specific rule, it defaults to the general RAW. You would treat it like you normally would when you gained a feat by level up.

RAI has never been clarified and what you propose is a very common house rule but, while very common, it's not demanded by RAW.


Out of curiosity, how's PFS handle Paragon Surge?

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