| Seemos Yantra |
I noticed that the create cost granted for each sample building on the Downtime section of Ultimate Campaign is nothing more than the summatory of the cost of all the building's components rooms. So, my question is:
Does this means the prize is simply for when you create the building from 0 instead of constructing room by room or this prize needs to be paid once you construct all the component rooms before you can use the building (which would be roughly like paying for the building twice if you think on it)?
In advance, as usual, thanks for taking your time reading and helping.
| Xorran |
Much like you already said, they are nothing more than "sample buildings" just for making quick and dirty buildings, or to simplify things.
As stated in the second paragraph: The examples that follow are not the only ways to construct these kinds of buildings and organizations. A particular Inn might have two Lodgings instead of one, include a Trophy
Room instead of a Bar, or display a Statue of the goddess of travelers.
So the sample buildings are just there for convenience, if you want to make all your buildings room by room, I'm sure you're welcome to do so.
| Seemos Yantra |
Eh... Uh.... Thanks, guys: all those ideas are quite creative, indeed (I'll take note of them). Nevertheless, my question was something far more puntual, if you notice. You see, the question arised since we were testing the reaches of the Downtime System of Ultimate Campaign with a test party and the wording is a bit vague in the "Buildings & Organizations" section like Xorran pointed out. It states the Create cost both in capitals and GP and the required rooms for the building, which is fine. However, my question (since it isn't stated anywhere clearly) was simply that if you can consider a building "FINISHED" if you have all the listed rooms connected or that if you, ADDITIONALLY, need to pay the cost on capital to be able to consider the building "FINISHED". At first I thought it was the latter (something akin to an "inauguration" or "refurbishing" prize) but then, upon seeing the huge prizes and the fact that they are the sum of the prizes of all the individual component rooms, I started to wonder if it wasn't simply a case of "If you want to build building ETC, you have 3 methods: 1) Build all the rooms and connect them, 2) Pay the amount on capitals, 3) Pay the amount on GP." Mainly, my question stemmed from the fact that, unlike rooms, the sample buildings have no "building time" like the rooms have, which led me to believe the first idea, hence my question here.
Thanks for reading this much and sorry for the wall of text. (Also, thanks for the creative ideas).
| Unruly |
In that case, I think this quote from the very top of the Buildings and Organizations page on the PRD is sufficient to answer your question -
This section presents many standard buildings and organizations. Each example lists exactly what rooms or teams are used to construct it, a total of each type of capital required if you want to construct one of your own, and a gp total if you want to purchase a completed building of this type. The listed gp value assumes you are purchasing the building instead of constructing it by spending earned capital (see Purchased Cost values from the Capital Values table).
According to that, the buildings listed are just there to act as examples, and any cost listed is the total cost that it would take to go from no building at all to completed and functional building. If you're looking at the gold price that's in parentheses, it's the price it would cost you to buy an already existing building in that particular setup. If you're looking at the price in capital, then it's the price to construct that particular building on an empty plot of land.
EDIT: To simplify, you just add up the cost of the rooms you want to build, and that's how much it costs to complete the building. You don't pay for anything other than the cost of the rooms and the teams you put in them.
| Seemos Yantra |
In that case, I think this quote from the very top of the Buildings and Organizations page on the PRD is sufficient to answer your question -
PRD wrote:This section presents many standard buildings and organizations. Each example lists exactly what rooms or teams are used to construct it, a total of each type of capital required if you want to construct one of your own, and a gp total if you want to purchase a completed building of this type. The listed gp value assumes you are purchasing the building instead of constructing it by spending earned capital (see Purchased Cost values from the Capital Values table).According to that, the buildings listed are just there to act as examples, and any cost listed is the total cost that it would take to go from no building at all to completed and functional building. If you're looking at the gold price that's in parentheses, it's the price it would cost you to buy an already existing building in that particular setup. If you're looking at the price in capital, then it's the price to construct that particular building on an empty plot of land.
EDIT: To simplify, you just add up the cost of the rooms you want to build, and that's how much it costs to complete the building. You don't pay for anything other than the cost of the rooms and the teams you put in them.
Thank you so much, Unruly, that was all I wanted to make sure. The book can be slightly ambiguous at some points, leaving to your "common sense" to guess certain things which is fine most of the time, but shouldn't be in the case of presenting a set of new rules (be them cannon or additional) as it may lead to confusions. Once again, thank you.