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With Improved Snap Shot, the PC has a 15 ft. AoO range.
With Combat Reflexes, he can make as many AoO as he has DEX +s.
Does that mean that the fighter with these feats, can make a full round of attack and when the enemy decides to attack him and takes a run at him he can potentially make as many AoOs before the monster even comes up on him? In my case DEX 20, so 6 AoOs before the enemy comes into range?
Also, if that's true, which feats are allowed for dmg in this scenario?
Point Blank
Deadly Aim
Focused Shot
One creature moving through an enemy's threatened square(s) can only provoke one AoO per round.
So said fighter with Improved Snap Shot could threaten 3 squares (15' range) between him and a distant enemy, but if that enemy runs through all those spaces, it's still only one AoO.
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One creature moving through an enemy's threatened square(s) can only provoke one AoO per round.
So said fighter with Improved Snap Shot could threaten 3 squares (15' range) between him and a distant enemy, but if that enemy runs through all those spaces, it's still only one AoO.
Combat Reflexes - You may make a number of additional attacks of opportunity per round equal to your Dexterity bonus. With this feat, you may also make attacks of opportunity while flat-footed.
Doesn't seem to limit it to only 1, could you refresh my memory where it says that?
Also, I was under the impression that only when when they leave a threatened area, they provoke an AoO. So, if he's coming to get me, I can shoot him when he enters the 10' square and the 5' square but not when he enters the 15' square.
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Focus Shot would Not be Used during the AoO
Deadly Aim could only be used if it was activated at the beginning of his round during attack Phase
Point Blank is always on so it would be used
Focused Shot
PrerequisitesInt 13, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot.
Benefit
As a standard action, you may make an attack with a bow or crossbow and add your Intelligence modifier on the damage roll. You must be within 30 feet of your target to deal this extra damage. Creatures immune to critical hits and sneak attacks are immune to this extra damage.
So, I have to ask why Focused Shot wouldn't apply?
I'm sure many of you are like, "Why are you even here if you think you know better?" And the reason I ask it here, is that I don't want to get into a huge group discussion at the table, mid scenario, I figure this is much better, since no one will think I'm trying to steal their thunder or waste their time, at the gaming table by being a rules lawyer.
There's a rule about one action only causing one AoO so taking a move action to go through multiple threatened areas only causes one AoO. If they moved and than dranka potion in the threatened area that'd be 2 AoO's but just running by or to you is only one.
Combat Reflexes and Additional Attacks of Opportunity
If you have the Combat Reflexes feat, you can add your Dexterity modifier to the number of attacks of opportunity you can make in a round. This feat does not let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity, but if the same opponent provokes two attacks of opportunity from you, you could make two separate attacks of opportunity (since each one represents a different opportunity). Moving out of more than one square threatened by the same opponent in the same round doesn't count as more than one opportunity for that opponent. All these attacks are at your full normal attack bonus.
BTW, thanks DM Blake, I had never caught that before and was expecting to argue w/ you before looking it up! :)
"So, I have to ask why Focused Shot wouldn't apply?"
Because an AoO isn't a standard action.
I'm sure many of you are like, "Why are you even here if you think you know better?" And the reason I ask it here, is that I don't want to get into a huge group discussion at the table, mid scenario, I figure this is much better, since no one will think I'm trying to steal their thunder or waste their time, at the gaming table by being a rules lawyer.
This is the rules forum. Everyone here is rules lawyering a bit. :P
No worries.
EDIT: I can't type sometimes.
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Petrus stated why Focused shot woud not apply. An Attack of opportunity gives you an attack not a standard action to use.
While one person charging the fighter would only take one attack of opportunity, where combat reflexes comes in is if 6 people charge him and he has a 20 dex he would get an attack of opportunity on all 6.
So, combat reflexes is not that powerful.
Good to know, I saw someone last night, to get 5 attack of, with their Alchemist against an NPC who walked into his threatened square (Alchemist has a 10' reach weapon) and I was like, WOW. But I guess he just used it wrong and the GM didn't know it was being used incorrectly.
Sweet, thank you all for the education guys. Much appreciated.
"So, combat reflexes is not that powerful."
It is and it isn't. Against hordes, it's awesome, against single monsters not so much. (Also keep mind it allows you to make AoO's in the surprise round.)
There are some funny synergies though. Vicious Stomp and Greater trip seem to stack (one AoO for falling down and one for getting tripped) but outside of that I can't think of too many ways to really optimize your AoO's against a single opponent. (Take a look at panther style combo'ed with crane/snake though for some amusing ideas.)
Good to know, I saw someone last night, to get 5 attack of, with their Alchemist against an NPC who walked into his threatened square (Alchemist has a 10' reach weapon) and I was like, WOW. But I guess he just used it wrong and the GM didn't know it was being used incorrectly.Sweet, thank you all for the education guys. Much appreciated.
If the NPC walked up to the Alchemist (AoO from reach weapon), drank a potion and then got full attacked by a feral alchemist I could see 5 attacks, but otherwise not so much.
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If the NPC walked up to the Alchemist (AoO from reach weapon), drank a potion and then got full attacked by a feral alchemist I could see 5 attacks, but otherwise not so much.
Good to know, I saw someone last night, to get 5 attack of, with their Alchemist against an NPC who walked into his threatened square (Alchemist has a 10' reach weapon) and I was like, WOW. But I guess he just used it wrong and the GM didn't know it was being used incorrectly.Sweet, thank you all for the education guys. Much appreciated.
Its a player I play with often, so I'll talk to him before our next session and give him a heads up.
When you talk to him, he might be thinking that he can make all of his natural attacks with an AoO. HE can't. It's just one attack with a claw or a bite (or an unarmed strike.)
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When you talk to him, he might be thinking that he can make all of his natural attacks with an AoO. HE can't. It's just one attack with a claw or a bite (or an unarmed strike.)
Nah, he was a Tiefling alchemist using a Ranseur, I believe is the name of the weapon. And then something went after him and he rolled a bunch of d20s and the GM asked if it was Combat Reflexes and then allowed it.
But obviously, if I or the other player show up in front of a different GM at a Con, that might not fly, if he's up on his rules. So, better safe than sorry.