burning ki and full attacks


Rules Questions


if i burn ki to move 20 feet (no other movement) can i full attack after?


That ki ability lets you increase your speed by 20 as a swift action, but it does not let you move as a swift action. So moving is still a move action which means that no, you would not be able to full attack after moving even if you buffed your speed with ki.

Sczarni

Since it is a Swift action, sure.
However if you MOVE, you cannot take a full action and can only take a Standard action afterwards.
If you do not take a Move action, you can take a full action.
If you're thinking that the +20 movement applies to your 5ft Step, it does not.

What exactly are you planning? Just gaining the speed for step up, or tiger style suite?


the idea is if i needed to move within 20 feet of something and dont have the range, i could spend the ki point and full attack instead of having to standard attack.

Sczarni

Alrighty.

That would be a negative on that.

Burning the Ki Point to add +20 to your move literally just adds +20 to a move action that involves moving.

If you use a move action though, you can't take a full action. Simple as that :T

Using that Ki Point for +20ft Move won't be helpful if you're trying to flurry.

Spending a Ki Point doesn't allow you to full attack. You burn a swift action by using that Ki Point, and it simply grants you either +4 to AC for one round, +20 movement speed for one round, or one extra attack with a Flurry at your highest BAB.


ya im a MoMS so no flurry but kinda moot. damn, woulda been nice.

guess ill stick with relying on my crane/snake styles along with acrobatics score for protection.

i mean...crane/snake styles work vs AoO dont they?

not the end of the world i guess.

Sczarni

Haha. It's certainly not the end of the world!

Yes, Crane and Snake both work against AoO.


we have about a month off on our campaign and since we got all the books now (only had core when started) we are allowed to retrain basically. so retraining to ape shaman/MoMS from basic druid/monk.

Im taking the time to really study the pathfinder game and learn how to do things, hence me bombarding this site with questions.

oh, and this is gestalt.

Sczarni

Oh Hey! Well I'm happy to answer whatever I can. I'm not super experienced with the game, but I've been reading a lot about general rules, Monks, and Druids. They are my specialty at this point. I still have a lot to learn. Feel free to PM me anytime on anything in regards to those things!


hey no problem, great game, honestly, pathfinder and dnd in general have somewhat ruined me for regular videogames >.<

Sczarni

Same here man!


If you really wanna do this, go with tiger style for your next one addition. It lets you move half your movement speed as a swift action towards someone you hit with an unarmed attack in the last round.

It also lets you apply power attack penalties to AC instead of attack if you choose.

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