You guys really need to watch this. American censorship has to end if we're ever to move forward ().
They might want to control communication, but they cannot legally accomplish this. It's vital to stand up for those who are being censored, especially if they hold viewpoints opposite of our personal ethos. The moment we bridge those gaps allows both sides to fairly debate pressing issues.
That was a symptom of business PR in the US; avoid anything that might cultivate negative publicity or spawn frivolous lawsuits. On the bright side, maybe Offbeatr will get more traffic now.
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They might want to control communication, but they cannot legally accomplish this. It's vital to stand up for those who are being censored, especially if they hold viewpoints opposite of our personal ethos. The moment we bridge those gaps allows both sides to fairly debate pressing issues.
They legally are right now. Obscenity laws, hate crime laws, courts used to sue over "hurtful" language. The law is already used to control what we say. Education and workplaces have already fallen to the monster of political correctness.
They might want to control communication, but they cannot legally accomplish this. It's vital to stand up for those who are being censored, especially if they hold viewpoints opposite of our personal ethos. The moment we bridge those gaps allows both sides to fairly debate pressing issues.They legally are right now. Obscenity laws, hate crime laws, courts used to sue over "hurtful" language. The law is already used to control what we say. Education and workplaces have already fallen to the monster of political correctness.
Workplaces are minefields thanks to hypersensitivity from damage-control fiends at the company's home office, but public education is still subject to the first ammendment and can prevail as long as people are willing to fight for it.
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Workplaces are minefields thanks to hypersensitivity from damage-control fiends at the company's home office, but public education is still subject to the first ammendment and can prevail as long as people are willing to fight for it.They might want to control communication, but they cannot legally accomplish this. It's vital to stand up for those who are being censored, especially if they hold viewpoints opposite of our personal ethos. The moment we bridge those gaps allows both sides to fairly debate pressing issues.They legally are right now. Obscenity laws, hate crime laws, courts used to sue over "hurtful" language. The law is already used to control what we say. Education and workplaces have already fallen to the monster of political correctness.
education is the breeding ground of the hypersensitivity
You guys really need to watch this. American censorship has to end if we're ever to move forward ().So a slouching fat kid in his sisters old navy skinny jeans, jacket with coattails and cow lick hair cut is upset that he can't perv on the 18 year old women and is trying to convince everyone that it is a problem? Boring. I don't see the problem.
You can be polite and try to get a date without either looking like a perv or making unwanted sexual remarks. Anyone who doesn't get that, who thinks that unwanted sexual remarks are just going to flood out of their mouth, should STFU anyway.
What are you talking about? Did you watch the video?
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education is the breeding ground of the hypersensitivity
Are you seriously claiming that an uneducated populace is a better thing? I'll stick with these guys -- maybe you've heard of them:
...a newspaper in every house, a good school in every district--all studied and appreciated as they merit--are the principal support of virtue, morality, and civil liberty.
I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves, (A)nd if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power.
education is the breeding ground of the hypersensitivity
Oh, so that's the problem! Everyone these days is just too damned educated!
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education is the breeding ground of the hypersensitivityAre you seriously claiming that an uneducated populace is a better thing? I'll stick with these guys -- maybe you've heard of them:
...a newspaper in every house, a good school in every district--all studied and appreciated as they merit--are the principal support of virtue, morality, and civil liberty.I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves, (A)nd if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power.
No im saying education should be about learning the topic of the class not whatever personal agenda the teachers have or the administration foists on them "for their own good"
And i should be saying "education" because many people could learn more (real education) by reading than sitting in a class getting credit for attendance and paying not for showing they learned a damn thing.
Does this sentence make sense to anyone else? It kind of falls apart somewhere around "and paying".
I think this is one of those things I learned about in school. I think it was called "irony."
No im saying education should be about learning the topic of the class not whatever personal agenda the teachers have or the administration foists on them "for their own good"
And yet somehow charter and private schools (including religious schools) where the administration/teachers at that particular school decide what to teach the children based on their personal agenda instead of a nationally accepted standard are a good thing, right?
As long as I agree with what they're teaching, there's no agenda to it. :P
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No im saying education should be about learning the topic of the class not whatever personal agenda the teachers have or the administration foists on them "for their own good"And yet somehow charter and private schools (including religious schools) where the administration/teachers at that particular school decide what to teach the children based on their personal agenda instead of a nationally accepted standard are a good thing, right?
Show me where i said any such thing?
No i do not believe religious schools should be allowed to exist. Or at least not be considered the same as a proper education
They might want to control communication, but they cannot legally accomplish this. It's vital to stand up for those who are being censored, especially if they hold viewpoints opposite of our personal ethos. The moment we bridge those gaps allows both sides to fairly debate pressing issues.They legally are right now. Obscenity laws, hate crime laws, courts used to sue over "hurtful" language. The law is already used to control what we say. Education and workplaces have already fallen to the monster of political correctness.
Do you think hate crime charges are easier or more difficult to prove than normal charges?
No i do not believe religious schools should be allowed to exist. Or at least not be considered the same as a proper education
Okay, what about non-religious private schools allowed to define their own curricula? I'm also really curious as to how a conservative ideology reconciles with the opinion that religious schools automatically shouldn't count as proper education.
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Because Andrew r isn't a conservative ideologue, but an angry Everyman forum poster.
Because Andrew r isn't a conservative ideologue, but an angry Everyman forum poster.
If Andrew doesn't consider religious schools to be capable of delivering a "proper" education, I'd hate to see what he thinks public education is producing. I attended a parochial school in L.A. for nine years (admittedly many years ago), and it was a given that if you had good grades and left to attend a public school you could expect to be at least half a semester ahead of the public school kids academically.
I have a good friend now who is a middle school teacher in the local public school system, and the disrespect to teachers and lack of academic requirements he has to deal with on a daily basis are shocking. Any student acting like that when I was in school would have been expelled or flunked out so fast his head would've spun, but nowadays school administrations just promote them along and pass on the problem.Whether a parent chooses to have religious instruction included in their child's curriculum (or not) is irrelevant. It is the overall quality of the education the child receives that is most important, and I see very little these days that places public education over private or religious schools in that regard.
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Because Andrew r isn't a conservative ideologue, but an angry Everyman forum poster.
An angry, misanthropic Everyman forum poster.
Because Andrew r isn't a conservative ideologue, but an angry Everyman forum poster.If Andrew doesn't consider religious schools to be capable of delivering a "proper" education, I'd hate to see what he thinks public education is producing.
I'm responding to your post generally, and I'm just quoting this amount to save space.
I, too, went to a parochial school. I went to Immaculate Heart of Mary for 7th and 8th grade, and then went to public high school (La Follette). I had pre-algebra in 7th grade, algebra in 8th, and then was the ONLY freshman in my geometry class in high school. Then again, my advanced English teacher was really annoyed with my friend Toby and me because, unlike public school kids, we hadn't been taught basic essay style/form, which Madison public schools did as early as 6th grade for accelerated students. So I was ahead on some things and behind on different things.
What I'm trying to get at is that it wasn't so much that the parochial school was "better" or "worse", and more that there was simply a different curriculum and smaller class sizes so we got more one on one time and all that good fuzzy stuff.
In the end, that's what you're paying for in a private school, especially ones that reserve the right to deny you entrance: a better, more personalized educational experience with less troublemakers and dumb kids holding you back. It has nothing to do with it being religious or not.
...unless you're going to a fundamentalist school where they teach that Jesus rode on dinosaurs and rock music is the devil. In which case, you're simply not going to function very well back in reality.
Just as an aside, on the topic of religious education, my Catholic school did such a good job of portraying the religion in a historic, objective light that it turned me into an atheist. So it's hard for me to agree with anyone who thinks religious schools are ALL indoctrination.
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Just as an aside, on the topic of religious education, my Catholic school did such a good job of portraying the religion in a historic, objective light that it turned me into an atheist. So it's hard for me to agree with anyone who thinks religious schools are ALL indoctrination.Because Andrew r isn't a conservative ideologue, but an angry Everyman forum poster.If Andrew doesn't consider religious schools to be capable of delivering a "proper" education, I'd hate to see what he thinks public education is producing.
Well im sure they did TRY at least
Man, that's hilarious.
Keep railing against education, Citizen R.