Can an NPC dismiss a PC Aasimar / Tiefling?


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If the BBEG casts dismissal on a PC Aasimar/Tiefling what happens?


Nothing, they aren't extraplanar. Unless they're in Hell or the Hao Jin Tapestry or something. Then it works on any kind of PC.


Nothing. They're native outsiders. Their respective planes aren't the Elysium or Hell, its the same one humans and dwarves are from.

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Rogue Eidolon wrote:
Nothing, they aren't extraplanar. Unless they're in Hell or the Hao Jin Tapestry or something. Then it works on any kind of PC.

OK, but they are outsiders. How is that different?


Why would it be different? The spell doesn't have the word outsider in it anywhere, just extraplanar.


Todd Lower wrote:
Rogue Eidolon wrote:
Nothing, they aren't extraplanar. Unless they're in Hell or the Hao Jin Tapestry or something. Then it works on any kind of PC.
OK, but they are outsiders. How is that different?

Because dismissal has nothing to do with outsiders, just with extraplanar creatures.

PRD wrote:
This spell forces an extraplanar creature back to its proper plane if it fails a Will save. If the spell is successful, the creature is instantly whisked away, but there is a 20% chance of actually sending the subject to a plane other than its own.

The "proper plane" for Outsider(native) is the Material plane.

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MrSin wrote:
Nothing. They're native outsiders. Their respective planes aren't the Elysium or Hell, its the same one humans and dwarves are from.

OK, that makes sense. Thanks.

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They are Outsiders (native) which means they're native to Golarian. It's the extra planar equivalent of 'great grandpa was from China, that's why I have these cool eyes, but I grew up in in Texas and have this cool accent.'

Edit:Darn Ninjas

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Todd Lower wrote:
Rogue Eidolon wrote:
Nothing, they aren't extraplanar. Unless they're in Hell or the Hao Jin Tapestry or something. Then it works on any kind of PC.
OK, but they are outsiders. How is that different?

The difference is that "outsider" is a creature type that dismissal doesn't care about, while "extraplanar" is a subtype that is applied to any creature that is on a plane other than its own regardless of creature type and is what dismissal explicitly deals with.

EDIT: Ninja'd.

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I have my NPCs dismiss tieflings all the time.

"Move along hellspawn. You're not wanted here."

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Adam Mogyorodi wrote:

I have my NPCs dismiss tieflings all the time.

"Move along hellspawn. You're not wanted here."

And they pay attention, that's impressive.

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Todd Lower wrote:
Adam Mogyorodi wrote:

I have my NPCs dismiss tieflings all the time.

"Move along hellspawn. You're not wanted here."

And they pay attention, that's impressive.

I'm betting that sometimes they make the save...


nosig wrote:
Todd Lower wrote:
Adam Mogyorodi wrote:

I have my NPCs dismiss tieflings all the time.

"Move along hellspawn. You're not wanted here."

And they pay attention, that's impressive.
I'm betting that sometimes they make the save...

Psh...

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