Just wondering if the additional abilities granted by a Beastmorphs mutagen are tied to the mutagen or the beastmorph alchemist ?
Specifically if a Beastmorph Mutagen is drunk by a different Alchemist would he benefit from the beast morph additions to the mutagen or only the base mutagen abilities ?
What if the different alchemist was a beastmorph as well but of a lower level ?
A non-alchemist who drinks a mutagen must make a Fortitude save (DC 10 + 1/2 the alchemist’s level + the alchemist’s Intelligence modifier) or become nauseated for 1 hour—a non-alchemist can never gain the benefit of a mutagen, but an alchemist can gain the effects of another alchemist’s mutagen if he drinks it. (Although if the other alchemist creates a different mutagen, the effects of the “stolen” mutagen immediately cease.) The effects of a mutagen do not stack. Whenever an alchemist drinks a mutagen, the effects of any previous mutagen immediately end.
I believe that they work as "brewed" by the alchemists that made it. Meaning the choice of what they get is made by the alchemists that made it at the time of making the mutagen.
The beastmorph also gains his choice of one of the abilities listed in the alter self spell, which persists as long as the mutagen. He may select a different ability each time he creates a mutagen.
so in theory one could take a single level of alchemist, and then try to aquire an alchemist cohort through the leadership feat or similar and use his more potent mutagens to supercharge whatever front-line build the main character has.
It is called a beastmorph mutagen so while I would say no, RAW seems to allow it.
It is called a beastmorph mutagen so while I would say no, RAW seems to allow it.
My feelings are somewhat similar hence why i brought it to the Rules board.
I guess mutagen are described as being infused with a portion of the Alchemists power, which is why he can only make one at a time. So from that perspective I guess it could make sense to carry the additional beastmorph benefits within the mutagen.
I'm curious about the whole "is it through the mutagen, or through the alchemist?" thing because I will soon be able to take the Improved Share Spells feat, which will allow me to use my mutagen and also have my tumor familiar benefit from it. It'd be cool if the familiar got the beastmorph benefits. Not that huge since the familiar already has flight and has no use of pounce, etc... but still potentially cool for added options.
An alchemist’s extracts and mutagens are considered spells for the purposes of familiar abilities like share spells and deliver touch spells.