I have back stories, evil plans, templates, and class levels all planned out, but I need help with something rather important: what creature should he be? I have three requirements: he must be able to take on a party of level 20 PCs alone (not counting any of his summoned creatures), he must be of a race/species that has a high enough intelligence score to be able to have believably planned centuries ahead, and he must be able to polymorph into a humanoid that is generally good. The last requirement is not too important, as if I need to I can just use a spell. I've been looking at titans and dragons specifically, but nothing is out of the question (though I'd prefer it to not be a demon or devil for plot reasons). One thing I'd like to know is how to figure the stats of a great wyrm. The BBEG is going to be a vampire grave knight too, so the idea of a vampiric, armored golden great wyrm turned evil functioning as a level 20 sorcerer and level 20 anti-pally sounds sweet. If that sounds OP, it's supposed to be. Thanks in advance!
The oni looks good, but I'm looking for something...bigger. I really like the idea of a colossal great wyrm golden dragon. How do I figure those stats?
Demi-god out of the question? An ancient person who has unlocked the secrets of gestalt?
A mind flayer brain cabal able to enthrall almost anyone. An aspect of a deity? A gestalt storm giant? Gestalt any CR 20+ critter? A corrupted celestial creatiure like Gabriel from the Constantine movie?
Ok, i found how to make a great wyrm. Next question: what sorcerer bloodline (lol not draconic)?
Uggh I hate it when people say that about dragons. They're intelligent creatures, they can have varying alignments. Anyways, he's a vampire.@Byrdology, only paizo material. Anyways, which bloodline for the dragon? Other than draconic. I'm not looking for "choose this because it makes sense" but if its powerful and makes sense, bonus points.
Whoa, I posted my last thing before seeing that rakshasa thing. That's interesting. I might do that instead. Still though, which bloodline?
Eh, sanguine doesn't look that great. Considering how I don't have any real flavor preferences bloodline-wise, how about arcane? Is there anything better?
Rakshasa are the best Outsiders.
Also, Rakshasa Bloodline would be good for your purposes. You say you want him to be able to transform into a good creature to fool your party, and, well higher DC to identify spells you cast and if they fail by 5 or more they're convinced it's something different (cast evil Necromancy spells and make it look like you're doing something else!), constant Nondetection effect, Swift action for +5 Bluff and resistance to spells that force you to tell the truth seems pretty tailor made for that.
I really like the rakshasa bloodline. I guess I'll just use eldritch heritage for that familiar. Now, my plan was to also have levels in ant-pally, so would that still be good for a rakshasa? If not, what class levels should he take? If he goes cleric, he must worship a divine concept, not a deity. He believes he is worthy of worship himself. How about duelist? He uses light armor so it affects spells less, and he'll have a free hand for spells anyways.
I have looked at that template, and for some reason I just don't like it. One question, can I put the lich and vampire templates on one creature?
If I choose rakshasa, I'll go fighter and duelist along with sorc. If I go dragon, I'll do anti pally and sorc. Now I just need to know which templates...
Which Is better, lich or vampire? I just...don't like ravener. Oh, is grave knight good? Which is best?
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Which Is better, lich or vampire? I just...don't like ravener. Oh, is grave knight good? Which is best?
It really depends on you and what you are going for for this BBEG. If you are just looking for the biggest baddest Template to add I have no clue as I do not create BBEGS just to be the most powerful.I have a concept or a theme in mind first.
From your original post it looks like you have gone from having some kind of theme to just wanting the most powerful dude on the block.
Give me a little more background on who the BBEG is and what he is trying to accomplish.
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How about an Aboleth?
Take a very advanced Aboleth, and add class levels the Int, Wis, and Cha, are in the range you are looking for.
Aboleth ( Advanced x2 ) CR 9
XP 6400
LE Huge aberration (aquatic)
Init +9; Senses darkvision 60 ft.; Perception +18
Aura mucus cloud (5 feet)
DEFENSEAC 28, touch 13, flat-footed 23 (+5 Dex, +15 natural, -2 size)
hp 116 (8d8+80)
Fort +12, Ref +9, Will +15;
OFFENSESpeed 10 ft., swim 60 ft.
Melee 4 tentacles +14 (1d6+9 plus slime)
Space 15 ft.Reach 15 ft.
Spell-Like Abilities (CL 16th) At will-hypnotic pattern (DC 19), illusory wall (DC 21), mirage arcana (DC 22), persistent image (DC 22), programmed image (DC 23), project image (DC 24), veil (DC 23) 3/day-dominate monster (DC 26)
STATISTICSStr 28, Dex 20, Con 30, Int 23, Wis 25, Cha 25;
Base Atk 6; CMB 17; CMD 32
Feats Improved Initiative, Iron Will, Lightning Reflexes, Weapon Focus (tentacle)
Skills Bluff +15, Intimidate +18, Knowledge (any one) +17, Perception +18, Spellcraft +17, Swim +28
Languages Aboleth, Aklo, Aquan, Undercommon
ECOLOGYEnvironment any aquatic
Organization solitary, pair, brood (3-6), or shoal (7-19)
Treasure double
SPECIAL ABILITIESMucus Cloud (Ex) While underwater, an aboleth exudes a cloud of transparent slime. All creatures adjacent to an aboleth must succeed on a DC 24 Fortitude save each round or lose the ability to breathe air (but gain the ability to breathe water) for 3 hours. Renewed contact with an aboleth's mucus cloud and failing another save extends the effect for another 3 hours. The save DC 4 Constitution-based. Slime (Ex) A creature hit by an aboleth's tentacle must succeed on a DC 24 Fortitude save or his skin and flesh transform into a clear, slimy membrane over the course of 1d4 rounds. The creature's new "flesh" is soft and tender, reducing its Constitution score by 4 as long as it persists. If the creature's flesh isn't kept moist, it dries quickly and the victim takes 1d12 points of damage every 10 minutes. Remove disease and similar effects can restore an afflicted creature to normal, but immunity to disease offers no protection from this attack. The save DC 4 Constitution-based.
Source: PFRPG Bestiary
He is centuries old. His greatest enemy's son sits on the throne of the empire he lives in. For years he's been polymorphed into a human serving as an adviser to his enemy's son. The son is a dragon, as was his enemy. The plot will be that the BBEG has dominated the emperor and is subtly tearing apart the empire from the inside. I want the BBEG to be able to dominate/control creatures, but I also want him to be extremely difficult to kill, as eventually he'll fight the PCs. Really, I just need him to be able to dominate a dragon. Other than that, he's power hungry so he'll have taken whatever template (or in his mind, went through whatever processes) to get as powerful magic-wise as he can. Does this help?
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He is centuries old. His greatest enemy's son sits on the throne of the empire he lives in. For years he's been polymorphed into a human serving as an adviser to his enemy's son. The son is a dragon, as was his enemy. The plot will be that the BBEG has dominated the emperor and is subtly tearing apart the empire from the inside. I want the BBEG to be able to dominate/control creatures, but I also want him to be extremely difficult to kill, as eventually he'll fight the PCs. Really, I just need him to be able to dominate a dragon. Other than that, he's power hungry so he'll have taken whatever template (or in his mind, went through whatever processes) to get as powerful magic-wise as he can. Does this help?
I honestly do not see a template that really makes sense. This guy is ultra powerful as is and adding a template could really amp him up since you are planning on adding quite a few class levels it seems. Maybe just add the advanced template and bump up his stats. By adding Lich or other you have thing to deal with like the Liches constant fear aura or the GraveKnights Sacrilegious Aura. This guy is basically immortal and had all the time in the world to plot and plan his revenge without resorting to changing himself into a undead abomination or something else. Besides he probably feels he is superior to any of those silly creatures anyhow.
He will be able to dominate control creatures with his sorcerer abilities, give him 2 levels of sorcerer and the Raksasha bloodline and if you were planning on adding fighters levels maybe the Dragoon archetype.
Ok, thanks for the advice. I'll take one more look at those templates and the advanced one. I might actually go umbral dragon rather than gold because he won't be evil due to undeath. I'll also look at dragoon. I think I'm good now, but if I have any more questions, keep checking this thread.
Take a 20th level Nymph Sorcerer and Point Buy her with the Young, Advanced and Vampire Templates with PC wealth for 20th level. she would be CR 25.
Racial Modifiers After Templates Are
Strength +6 (+6 +4 -4)
Dexterity +22 (+10+4+4+4)
Constitution N/A (+8+4-4)
Intelligence +12 (2+6+4)
Wisdom +12 (2+6+4)
Charisma +22 (14+4+4)
Natural Armor +6 (+6+2-2)
Size; Small (-1 CMB/CMD +1 AC/Hit +4 stealth +2 fly)
+8 Stealth +8 Bluff +12 perception +12 sense motive
Wild Empathy 34+cha mod
Nymph Racial DCs 24+cha mod
14 feats +bonus feats for vampire and sorcerer levels
Cha instead of Con to HP and Fort Saves
Cha to all 3 saves (Chax2 to fort but no Con)
Raise Cha High enough and you can have over 600 HP.
nymphs are generally seen as good aligned, and few would question and unusually pale and emaciated little nymph girl with Porphyric Anemia. truth is, she is a powerful sorcereress who pretends to be a sickly child.
she could blame her vampiric weaknesses on a witches curse as a cover up.
Doubles? Disposable minions?
Yes, please:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/s/simulacrum
It's going to be a high level BBEG, right? What's better than having a bunch of frosty duplicates who look just like him? In fact, through proper use of Illusion, even various detection magics will be fooled (use the invisible Fog Cloud trick for those pesky See Invisibles and True Seeings).
Note that I doesn't have to be half of his CURRENT level. It could have cast this before, and depending on how you staggered its advancement this could give entirely creature Hit Die, or a mix between that and character levels. Basically tweak it as you need it. If the Simulacrums have buffing abilities or the like, so much the better. If there are multiples, they can all ready actions to unleash an attack at the same moment as their 'leader' or the real one (Dragon BBEG uses Breath Weapon, 3 Simuls readied actions to do the same... LOOKS like Mirror Image, hurts like a mofo).