Monk Weapons

[Robert Grant II]

One question that keeps popping up in my mind is: can anyone use monk weapons?

For example: the brass knuckle is a simple weapon, so does that mean anyone proficient in simple weapons can use it?

Another example: The monk's spade is a martial weapon, so can anyone proficient in martial weapons use it?

A simple misunderstanding, and clarification would help. Thanks.

[Rynjin]

Yes. The "Monk" quality merely means that it is able to be flurried with if the Monk has proficiency in them (because he doesn't come packaged with proficiency in all of them).

What's funny about this is that it means the Unarmed Fighter has more Monk weapon proficiencies than the Monk does.

[Robert Grant II]

Rynjin wrote:

What's funny about this is that it means the Unarmed Fighter has more Monk weapon proficiencies than the Monk does.

Thank you for that clarification. I have questioned that for waaay too long.

And yeah, I actually was thinking about that the other day and realized the unarmed fighter had a broader arsenal. Each class has it's pluses and minuses.

[Robert Grant II]

But I was basing that on the assumption that they also were not able to use monk weapons. For some reason, even after playing for a decade, I still was questioning that...

Glad I don't have to do that anymore!!!

[blackbloodtroll]

Like, others were not proficient, or they would cease to be weapons in the hands of everyone else?

I really don't understand what you thought before.

I mean, a Quarterstaff is a Monk weapon.

[Kazumetsa]

Rynjin wrote:

Yes. The "Monk" quality merely means that it is able to be flurried with if the Monk has proficiency in them (because he doesn't come packaged with proficiency in all of them).

What's funny about this is that it means the Unarmed Fighter has more Monk weapon proficiencies than the Monk does.

Personally I think Monk's should have proficiency and FoB capability on half of the Martial Weapons and all of the Exotic Weapons. Or Half of the Exotic weapons, and all of the Martial weapons.

[blackbloodtroll]

Perhaps there will be a future archetype that is proficient with all.

Weird, but I am still curious what the OP thought Monk weapons did in the hands on non-Monks.

Did he think they crumble?

Did a ghost come up and say "no, you can't use that"?

[Robert Grant II]

Nice troll, but I meant the out of the ordinary weapons in the martial and simple categories. Butterfly swords, cestus, etc. I just never bothered to ask i guess.

I also totally overlooked quarterstaff as a monk weapon... for about a decade... But since I already just had my warped view fixed. Oh well.

[Howie23]

Nothing wrong with getting something wrong, even for an extended period of time. Everything right with realizing that something doesn't quite fit as you were thinking and working to figure out what you had wrong.

BBT, people often use "can't use" to mean "not proficient with."

Old Medical Adage:

If you hear hoof beats, think horses, not zebras.

[blackbloodtroll]

Okay.

I genuinely confused.

We all get something wrong sometimes.