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Is there a pdf or a link that shows you all the classes in pathfinder society and explains them each or do you have to buy all the books with the classes? I thought there might be an individual pdf download in piazo for certain class you want instead of getting the whole book from them. Kind of like a per class pdf download from them.
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The PRD is great for a overview. You could get the Core Rulebook in PDF. That will take care of most of the classes for less then $10.
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I completely disagree. That's the whole idea behind the Core Assumption. The Core Rulebook, the Pathfinder Society Field Guide, and the Guide to Organized Play are assumed to be at every table. Everything within them (with few exceptions) is legal for play. Not only do you needn't own them, you don't even have to bring them to a game. If you read the Guide to Organized Play, page 5, you'll see that "In order to utilize content from an Additional Resource (emphasis mine), a player must have a physical copy of the Additional Resource in question". Nowhere in the Guide does it say you must own or bring a copy of the Core Rulebook with you.
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I completely disagree. That's the whole idea behind the Core Assumption. The Core Rulebook, the Pathfinder Society Field Guide, and the Guide to Organized Play are assumed to be at every table. Everything within them (with few exceptions) is legal for play. Not only do you needn't own them, you don't even have to bring them to a game. If you read the Guide to Organized Play, page 5, you'll see that "In order to utilize content from an Additional Resource (emphasis mine), a player must have a physical copy of the Additional Resource in question". Nowhere in the Guide does it say you must own or bring a copy of the Core Rulebook with you.
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8nl?Policing-the-Core-Assumption#43
Enough of the back and forth. The rules are clear, you have to have the physical book or a pdf of any book you use to build your character.
"Pathfinder Society Organized Play assumes that every player has the following resources.
• Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook
• Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Pathfinder Society Field Guide
• Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play"It doesn't state "has access to" it states "has", therefore you have to own these three resources.
Todd said it very well. Topic is now locked. Time to move on.
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Oh for crying out loud. BUY the books you use. That's all you need to know and do.
I agree with this sentiment 100%, except when it comes to the Core Assumption. Those three sources are the foundation for Society. The CRB is free for use on the PRD. The Core Assumption is required to be at every table. That is one of the GM's responsibilities, not the player's. The Guide says nothing about owning or bringing a copy of any of those three sources to Society games. The only mention of owning or bringing your own sources refers to the Additional Resources, which I fully endorse and support.
Todd said it very well. Topic is now locked. Time to move on.
If that is the quote that Mike Brock is referring to, then it will be the first time I've disagreed with anything he's ruled. This Society should be free to join for anyone that wants to. I felt welcomed the first time I asked if I could join a game. I welcome anyone that wants to join a game. I don't squint my eyes and tell them, "Not until you buy these books". And if someone didn't bring a Core Book with them to a game I certainly wouldn't turn them away, either.
Look, I get that Pathfinder Society is a marketing tool for Paizo. I understand that, and I'm behind that idea. It's brilliant. If someone tells me they don't own the Additional Resource they're using for some aspect of their character, I don't let them use it in game. Whenever I want to make a character, I buy the sources I need to. I feel it's my duty to support a company when I'm using their products. But I will not turn anyone away for not bringing or owning the Core Assumption. That's my job as a GM.
Everyone familiar with those people that stand inside a booth at the grocery store, offering free samples? They work for a company that produces and sells a product. Why are they giving away free stuff? Because anyone will try something if it's free. People like free stuff. And if they like it, they're more willing to buy it. If you walked up to one of those booths and saw a sausage on a toothpick, and went to grab it, and the person behind the counter said, "50 cents for a sample", you'd walk away. And if that's what this campaign administration wants us as GMs to say to new players, those new players are going to have the same reaction.
I do not believe the Guide says that one must own the Core Assumption before playing in Society. The language used is expressly different than that for Additional Resources. If that is what's implied, then I disagree with it completely, and I whole heartedly ask that it be reviewed and changed.
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It has been stated somewhere that a brand new player is not expected to own the Core Assumption the first time or even the second or third time playing. Heck probably the first half dozen times. But after that, if your going to continue to play, you need to buy the material. Not only for yourself, but to keep from slowing down games while you ask to borrow am item or search the PRD. Also the Field Guide to Pathfinder Society isn't in the PRD, correct?
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It's called the core assumption because it is assumed that every player owns those three "books" not because it is assumed to be at the table and thus you don't have to worry about it. Most GMs/coordinators will let new players play for a while off of the core assumptions without owning them. No one wants to force someone to buy in if they are unsure about liking it but that has to end at some point and the actual rules should thus apply. Besides $24 is not at all bad for getting into PFS.
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It has been stated somewhere that a brand new player is not expected to own the Core Assumption the first time or even the second or third time playing. Heck probably the first half dozen times. But after that, if your going to continue to play, you need to buy the material. Not only for yourself, but to keep from slowing down games while you ask to borrow am item or search the PRD. Also the Field Guide to Pathfinder Society isn't in the PRD, correct?
This. It has indeed been stated that you may play multiple times without the books, but honestly. If you have played 4+ times then you have gotten ~16 hours of entertainment. I'm sure that is worth $9.99 (the cost of the CRB PDF) to you. Heck, that's the cost of a 2 hour movie around where I live! 800% better to play PFS.
Support the company. As a player you are only asked to buy 1-2 things. Once. After that you can play for free, almost forever. (I say almost because some books do phase out after a while. Seeker of Secrets --> Pathfinder Society Field Guide --> Pathfinder Society Primer)