Has anyone seen this Discovery?
Forest's Blessing
Prerequisite(s): Wizard 5
Benefit: You cast any spells that appear on both the wizard and druid spell lists at +1 caster level and with +1 to the save DC. In addition, you may replace the material component of any arcane spell with gems of the same value.
This comes from the Champions of Purity, and I don't know if its missing something, because it reads being way too awesome.
Anyways, if anyone has some insight as too if this is too good to be true I would appreciate it.
How many/what spells actually appear on both? The material component gig seems more flavor than anything.
I'm not seeing the awesomeness either.
Also not seeing it. Your baleful polymorph is slightly stronger. Yippie?
I don't care enough to actually check all the spells the two classes share. If there are a lot of good ones, maybe it's a decent ability.
Here's a list of druids spells that are shared, cantrips through third. Keep in mind these are the spell levels for the druid version, not the wizards.
Detect Poison
Flare
Light
Mending
Read magic
resistance
Spark
Alter Winds
Ant Haul
Burning Disarm
Damp Powder
Decompose Corpse
Endure elements
Expiditious Retrest
Flare Burst
Hydraulic Push
Jump
Liberating Command
Obscuring Mist
Ray of Sickening
Restore Corpse
Snow Shape
Stone Fist
Touch of the Sea
Weaken Powder
Animal Aspect
Communal Ant Haul
Bear's Endurance
Bull's Strength
Burning Gaze
Campfire Wall
Carry Companion
Cat's Grace
Certain Grip
Defoliate
Determine Depth
Elemental Speech
Communal Endure Elements
Fire Trap
Fire Sneeze
Flaming Sphere
Fog Cloud
Frigid Touch
Frost Fall
Glide
Greensight
Gust of Wind
Masterwork Transformation
Owl's Wisdom
Pernicious Poison
Resist Energy
Share Language
Slipstream
Spider Climb
Stone Call
Summon Swarm
Unshakable Chill
Web Shelter
Anthropromorphic Animal
Ape Walk
Aqueous Orb
Ash Storm
Badger's Ferocity
Burrow
Channel the Gift
Cloak of Winter
Contagion
Create Treasure map
Daylight
Delay Poison, Communal
Heatstroke
Hurricane Blast
Hydraulic Torrent
Ice Spears
Mad Monkeys
Protection From Energy
Pup Shape
Rain of Frogs
Resinous Skin
Communal Resist Energy
Communal Share Language
Sheet lightning
Shifting Sands
Sky Swim
Sleet Storm
Communal Spider Climb
Stone Shape
Summon Totem Creature
Vengeful Comets
Vermin Shape 1
Water Breathing
Wind Wall
I think rogue-mage may be reading this as wizards get both druid and wizard spells.
I think rogue-mage may be reading this as wizards get both druid and wizard spells.
I think you may be correct. That's the only way this would be impressive at all.
There is a prestige class that let's you put druid spells on your wizard list...
The trait two world magic, the magaambyan arcanist prestige, and the samsaran race all allow you to place one spell from another class into an individuals spell list. I'm not sure how that interacts with the class myself.
Wood Elemental wizards get a some druid spells added to their spell books. I suppose for some of those spells it could be nice (like entangle) but I wouldn't particularly say awesome per se.
The trait two world magic, the magaambyan arcanist prestige, and the samsaran race all allow you to place one spell from another class into an individuals spell list. I'm not sure how that interacts with the class myself.
Samsaran won't work. It has to be the same spell type. Wizards can't get spells druid get unless they appear on other arcane lists.
I think rogue-mage may be reading this as wizards get both druid and wizard spells.I think you may be correct. That's the only way this would be impressive at all.
In which case it would indeed be awesome. Too awesome, I dare say.
I think it is pretty good, certainly better than most feats and it stacks with spell focus, the gems for components bit can be nice, it turns your expensive components into liquid assets and when the world runs out off diamond dust you can at least substitute other gems.
I don't think most mentioned ways to make the ability more useful dont work though, it doesn't mention the caster's spell list but rather 'the wizard list' as in the list shared by all wizards and 'druid list'.
The trait two world magic, the magaambyan arcanist prestige, and the samsaran race all allow you to place one spell from another class into an individuals spell list. I'm not sure how that interacts with the class myself.Samsaran won't work. It has to be the same spell type. Wizards can't get spells druid get unless they appear on other arcane lists.
I know witches have quiet a few druid spells that don't appear on the sorcerer/wizard's spell list. Summoner might have a few too. Not sure how many of them are good or worth your time however. There were a few blasty and Crowd control type spells on the list I made, those might benefit from the +1 DC/CL.
That is exactly how I was reading it. Druid spell list added into a Wizard spell list plus 1 caster level increase.
But I do realize now that I was way off.
Thanks guys for helping me out with this one.
I hope no dreams were dashed?
Nah...it just seem too good, but obviously I was reading it wrong.