strongest (highest str. score) build


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Hey all.

I wanna prep a char in case my current dies, and I want a high str 2 handed figther...

We are all humans!
Stat array, so starting str = 20 inc. Racial bonus.
Allowed books are CRB, APG, UM, UC & UE
Level 10 build, 100.000 gp.

I was thinking:

1 alchemist (for mutagen)
2-4 barb (for rage)
5 sorc (draconic)
6-10 DD

any suggestions on gear and feats?
Other stronger class combos ?

* edit, actually forgot the sorc level

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Aasimar (angelic) paladin with Eldritch Heritage: Orc bloodline (and improved and greater)can get pretty insane at high levels...you could potentially do that with a human...the reason paladin: Greater Eldritch Heritage requires a 17 Cha, so hey.

An extremely charismatic Bbn would be even nastier, Str-wise.


Be a Wizard but get, like, 20 strength somehow and freak everyone out.


EldonG wrote:

Aasimar (angelic) paladin with Eldritch Heritage: Orc bloodline (and improved and greater)can get pretty insane at high levels...you could potentially do that with a human...the reason paladin: Greater Eldritch Heritage requires a 17 Cha, so hey.

An extremely charismatic Bbn would be even nastier, Str-wise.

Can't find orc bloodline in any of the allowed books :-(


Druid 8
Barbarian 4
Alchemist 2
Bard 1
Dragon Disciple 5

with the eldritch heritage feats for orc bloodline and shaping focus

Start with 20 strength
Huge Earth Elemental shape (+8 Size Bonus)
Barbarian Rage (+4 Morale bonus)
Mutagen (+4 alchemical bonus)
Dragon Disciple (+4 bonus)
Orc Bloodline (+6 inherent bonus)
Belt (+6 Enhancement)
+5 leveling
Courageous Furious +5 Weapon (Increase Morale by +3)

Final Strength
60

Edit: Crap no orcish Bloodline. Still this leaves you with a 54 Strength.

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Bacon666 wrote:
EldonG wrote:

Aasimar (angelic) paladin with Eldritch Heritage: Orc bloodline (and improved and greater)can get pretty insane at high levels...you could potentially do that with a human...the reason paladin: Greater Eldritch Heritage requires a 17 Cha, so hey.

An extremely charismatic Bbn would be even nastier, Str-wise.

Can't find orc bloodline in any of the allowed books :-(

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines -from-paizo/orc-bloodline

It's in Orcs of Golarion, so sorry, probably not.


Bacon666 wrote:
EldonG wrote:

Aasimar (angelic) paladin with Eldritch Heritage: Orc bloodline (and improved and greater)can get pretty insane at high levels...you could potentially do that with a human...the reason paladin: Greater Eldritch Heritage requires a 17 Cha, so hey.

An extremely charismatic Bbn would be even nastier, Str-wise.

Can't find orc bloodline in any of the allowed books :-(

Orc Bloodline is from Orcs of Golarion, which has a 9th level bloodline power of gaining +2 inherent bonus to Str (increasing to +4/+6 at 13/17; so levels 11/15/19 with improved eldritch heritage).Another option is the Abyssal bloodline, which has the same 9th level power.

Orc bloodline has a number of useful powers, especially if you can pick up the Optimistic Gambler trait from the Second Darkness player's guide, and is worth the eldritch chain in my opinion. If you can only go the abyssal route, is probably just better to take the cross-blooded sorceror archetype with draconic and abyssal.


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You can also EH into Abyssal. It's the same bonus and Core.


16 lvls Syntheist summoner

Biped 16 base
+8 Inherent level bonus
+8 Large
+8 huge
+4 Ability score increase
+6 belt of str
+8 ability score increase evolution (this kinda eats all evolution points so I wouldn't do it, but it can be done)

2 barb
+ 4 rage

2 alch
+4 Mutagen

+6 Abyssal bloodline

Toal = 72 str


Desert_tiger wrote:

16 lvls Syntheist summoner

Biped 16 base
+8 Inherent level bonus
+8 Large
+8 huge
+4 Ability score increase
+6 belt of str
+8 ability score increase evolution (this kinda eats all evolution points so I wouldn't do it, but it can be done)

2 barb
+ 4 rage

2 alch
+4 Mutagen

+6 Abyssal bloodline

Toal = 72 str

Regular summoner might be nice (and easier not to make the GM go into a frothing rage) if you played the eidolon as the one in charge, with a quite little buff monkey in the back. It is one of the easiest ways of getting huge STR scores without even really trying as you can see with some of the above.


Bacon666 wrote:

Hey all.

I wanna prep a char in case my current dies, and I want a high str 2 handed figther...

We are all humans!
Stat array, so starting str = 20 inc. Racial bonus.
Allowed books are CRB, APG, UM, UC & UE
Level 10 build, 100.000 gp.

I was thinking:

1 alchemist (for mutagen)
2-4 barb (for rage)
5 sorc (draconic)
6-10 DD

any suggestions on gear and feats?
Other stronger class combos ?

* edit, actually forgot the sorc level

so you would be at 28 (or temporarily 34) strength at level 10, if i calculated that correctly?

I think alternatively you could just go with a straight synthesist summoner build. You would end up huge with it with 38 Strength at level 13. (you would have pured almost all your evolution points into large and huge size as well as strength increases) At this point you could further improve it with casting enlarge person and bull's strength. But yeah, it's probably not all that useful when dungeoneering because of the size.

Edit: ah i didn't see that i have been ninja'd hours ago. But with desert_tiger's build i think the problem is, that rage, mutagen and bloodlines add to the character's strength, so the bonus cannot be used by the fused eidolon.

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I think the succubus's Profane Gift ability grants a +2 profane bonus to the ability score of your choice, such as Strength.


If you go with the synthesist summoner build, you could get eye for talent instead of your bonus feat, to give an extra +2 STR to your eidolon.


I have a 2h Weapon Fighter/Armoured Hulk Barbarian who dishes a LOT of damage out.

You could build it with Human Dual Talent to give +2 to Strength and Constitution. This will give you better hit points as well but also slightly more rage. From the Barbarian you get Rage and Rage Powers - 5 levels of Armoured Hulk loses you 3 feats but you gain lots of skills, Rage and 2 Rage Powers. Your Fighter progression is slower but you will inflict massive damage with the equivalent of up to 24 Strength and low levels and you still get lots of feats.

Putting the Dual Talent into Con also gives you a +1 on Fort saves and 1hp a level which you can add to in terms of Toughness so whilst it looks like you are 'losing' a feat (and the skill points) you are probably gaining more because you can also take Toughness on top of that.


Desert_tiger wrote:

16 lvls Syntheist summoner

Biped 16 base
+8 Inherent level bonus
+8 Large
+8 huge
+4 Ability score increase
+6 belt of str
+8 ability score increase evolution (this kinda eats all evolution points so I wouldn't do it, but it can be done)

2 barb
+ 4 rage

2 alch
+4 Mutagen

+6 Abyssal bloodline

Toal = 72 str

Ah but the synthesist would not get the bloodline bonus or the 4 points of ability bonus (they would add to the summoner's STR not the Eidolon's) and most likely not the Mutagen or Rage bonuses, heck even the belt bonus is unlikely (is the synthesist getting these bonuses or the eidolon?)

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I just remembered the Warhulk PrC. It's 3.5, but it replaces increases in BAB with +2 Strength per level, for a total of +20 Strength over 10 levels.

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