Cavalier (Beast Rider) Charge question

[Koujow]

A player in my group has asked me a question about his Cavalier to which I am not entirely certain about. Soon, he will reach level 7 and he will change his mount to a Lion (Because at level 5, the Big Cat is not large enough to ride).

Up until now, he has been using a lance to charge opponents on a horse for crazy amounts of damage. One of the reasons he picked a Lion is that when it charges, it also gets to Pounce on the enemy (beyond the fact it might be one of the most metal things ever done).

But the problem is, a Lance has reach. We discussed the scenario and I wanted to toss it out to you folks to see whats correct.

Scenario A: When the Cavalier charges on his Lion, he can either use his Lance (and not his Lion's Pounce) or his Lion's Pounce (but not his lance and instead a regular melee weapon).

Scenario B: When the Cavalier charges, he first makes his lance attack, then moves the Lion forward a space (because it is the Lion's movement, not the Cavaliers) and makes the pounce attack.

Scenario C: Something I didn't think of.

[LogantheBard]

I don't know RAW, but on the fly, I would rule B, but would not give the benefit of spirited charge (assuming he has it). I would see it as you don't get the full momentum that ride-by attack gives you if your lion is pouncing.

[hoshi]

Scenario B, Cavalier retaining all bonuses, I think it would make flavour sense for the Cav. to make an attack from 5 m away, and then the lion pouncing over the final 5 m distance.

[Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan]

I vote B.

[Name Violation]

ride by attack?

[Avianfoo]

Name Violation wrote:

ride by attack?

Seconded.

I would say Ride by Attack would be a prerequisite to have Scenario B work. Without Ride by Attack I would say Scenario A.

But I assume the Lion riding cavalier has spirited charge already...

[Choon]

--Lion/cavalier charges
--lance makes contact with all that charge bonus damage goodness (Spirited charge, etc)
--Ride by Attack activated, allowing movement after the attack
--Lion arrives and finishes off the poor soul

That's my two coppers, anyway.