Grappling Flurry


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Curious - how does a flurrying grapple work?

In the grapple rules it talks about how grappling is a standard action. You can only do one grapple check a turn. Fair enough.

The problem is that the monk's flurry rules state, "A monk may substitute disarm, sunder, and trip combat maneuvers for unarmed attacks as part of a flurry of blows." Thus is the confusion.

As near as I can figure - the first turn the monk grapples someone they can make as many grapple checks as they have flurry attacks. If they're still grappling the next turn they can only make one check as a standard action. After all - they can't flurry after their standard action.

That seems off somehow.

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Charon's Little Helper wrote:


The problem is that the monk's flurry rules state, "A monk may substitute disarm, sunder, and trip combat maneuvers for unarmed attacks as part of a flurry of blows." Thus is the confusion.

DIsarm, sunder and trip are the three combat maneuvers that can be done in place of a melee attack. They get weapon bonuses. Not grapple.

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Yeah, I'm not understanding how "your flurry can include disarms, trips and sunders" leads to "grapples too, right?"


As far as I know, the Maneuver Master Monk is the only one that can use a Grapple in a Flurry, and even then, it's only as an additional maneuver--it doesn't replace any of the attacks.


Echoing the others here: Flurry denotes three specific combat maneuvers that can be substituted in place of flurry attacks. Grapple is not one of them.


I'm guessing you might have been mistakenly assuming that disarms, sunders, and trips are part of the grappling rules. They're not. Grapple is one kind of combat maneuver and those others are different kinds of combat maneuvers - they all use the same CMB and CMD mechanic, but they are all separate maneuvers.


Jiggy wrote:
Yeah, I'm not understanding how "your flurry can include disarms, trips and sunders" leads to "grapples too, right?"

It doesn't. That's why Maneuver Master has to state specifically that this archetype lets a monk flurry with combat maneuvers.


Yep as others have noted, Flurry of Blows does not allow the use of the grapple combat maneuver.

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