
mbauers |

Not sure if this belongs in the rules forum so if not I apologize.
What would be an appropriate cost to an item that improves performance combat checks? I'm thinking about something that is an armor enhancement, for example (whether it's just a flat gp amount or a +1 bonus or whatever).
As far as I've seen, nothing like this exists. I have a circlet of persuasion, but I want something that stacks with it (it's a competence bonus).
Thanks.

Claxon |

Ranks in perform(act/comedy/dance) add a bonus to Performance Combat checks, as well as Charisma bonuses. So buy a ring with skill bonus to a perform skill, throw some ranks in the skill.
I'm more surprised to see anyone playing with the performance combat rules that were outlined in Ultimate Combat.

mbauers |

Well, performance combat checks are modified by skill ranks, not the actual performance skill bonus. There's a feat (performance master maybe?) that lets you use performance checks in regular combats with a static DC 20 performance check.
Circlet of persuasion boosts these, but I'm looking fr something that stacks with it. If the circlet affects all Cha-based checks and costs 4500, I imagine something that only grants a bonus to performance checks would be cheaper. I'm thinking an untyped, luck, or insight bonus, maybe +3?

Claxon |

Even though the skill ranks do not directly affect your actual performance "skill" getting a bonus on the check is just as good. If you're asking if there is an item that specifically focus on performance combat checks, not that I know of, but it's also not a very popular rules option.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're wanting.

mbauers |

What I'm looking for is a way to boost performance combat check rolls--I need to hit a static DC 20 performance combat check to be able to use Hero's Display in a non-performance combat. Maximize ranks in performance helps, but the other things I can think of are a circlet of persuasion and I believe Tap Inner Beauty would work as well.
I believe you're right, that as of right now there is nothing else that would really add to it. So my question is, what would likely be the cost of creating a magic item that only added to performance combat checks? Circlet of persuasion adds 3 to all Cha-based checks and is only 4500. So I'm thinking something that adds just to performance combat checks would be cheaper to make/buy, and just wanted any opinions on that.

Claxon |

I think your best bet, is to simply make the circlet of persuasion +5. It seems like the formula the circlet of persuasion uses is bonus^2*500 gp. At 3^2*500=4500. At a +5 it would be 12500. I would ask your GM what kind of items exist, or what you're allowed to make. Such a very specific item is hard to price, especially since I don't find it to be that similar to anything else on the magic item creation rules.
If I were GMing I'd probably allow you to stack different bonus types (i.e. divine, morale, insight, etc.) as a bonus to it, but I would probably price it the same as the circlet of persusasion (i.e. bonus^2*500). Even it is only specifically good for combat performance the fact that it is exactly what you want makes it very very good for you, so I wouldn't be inclined to discount it further. However, where you come out ahead is that with three different (or more) bonus types you can by three +1 items for 500 gp each (total of 1500) vs the 4500 you would spend on just the circlet of persuasion.