An item to improve performance combat checks


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Not sure if this belongs in the rules forum so if not I apologize.

What would be an appropriate cost to an item that improves performance combat checks? I'm thinking about something that is an armor enhancement, for example (whether it's just a flat gp amount or a +1 bonus or whatever).

As far as I've seen, nothing like this exists. I have a circlet of persuasion, but I want something that stacks with it (it's a competence bonus).

Thanks.


Ranks in perform(act/comedy/dance) add a bonus to Performance Combat checks, as well as Charisma bonuses. So buy a ring with skill bonus to a perform skill, throw some ranks in the skill.

I'm more surprised to see anyone playing with the performance combat rules that were outlined in Ultimate Combat.


Well, performance combat checks are modified by skill ranks, not the actual performance skill bonus. There's a feat (performance master maybe?) that lets you use performance checks in regular combats with a static DC 20 performance check.

Circlet of persuasion boosts these, but I'm looking fr something that stacks with it. If the circlet affects all Cha-based checks and costs 4500, I imagine something that only grants a bonus to performance checks would be cheaper. I'm thinking an untyped, luck, or insight bonus, maybe +3?


Even though the skill ranks do not directly affect your actual performance "skill" getting a bonus on the check is just as good. If you're asking if there is an item that specifically focus on performance combat checks, not that I know of, but it's also not a very popular rules option.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're wanting.


What I'm looking for is a way to boost performance combat check rolls--I need to hit a static DC 20 performance combat check to be able to use Hero's Display in a non-performance combat. Maximize ranks in performance helps, but the other things I can think of are a circlet of persuasion and I believe Tap Inner Beauty would work as well.

I believe you're right, that as of right now there is nothing else that would really add to it. So my question is, what would likely be the cost of creating a magic item that only added to performance combat checks? Circlet of persuasion adds 3 to all Cha-based checks and is only 4500. So I'm thinking something that adds just to performance combat checks would be cheaper to make/buy, and just wanted any opinions on that.


I think your best bet, is to simply make the circlet of persuasion +5. It seems like the formula the circlet of persuasion uses is bonus^2*500 gp. At 3^2*500=4500. At a +5 it would be 12500. I would ask your GM what kind of items exist, or what you're allowed to make. Such a very specific item is hard to price, especially since I don't find it to be that similar to anything else on the magic item creation rules.

If I were GMing I'd probably allow you to stack different bonus types (i.e. divine, morale, insight, etc.) as a bonus to it, but I would probably price it the same as the circlet of persusasion (i.e. bonus^2*500). Even it is only specifically good for combat performance the fact that it is exactly what you want makes it very very good for you, so I wouldn't be inclined to discount it further. However, where you come out ahead is that with three different (or more) bonus types you can by three +1 items for 500 gp each (total of 1500) vs the 4500 you would spend on just the circlet of persuasion.

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