Duel Cursed Oracle questions


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Radiant Oath

So I was looking to play a Duel Cursed Oracle. Now I know that one of my curses is Deaf (Got this thing going with my sister where she speaks for my character) and was wondering how a couple of combinations would work for example

Deaf + Legalistic (I can kinda see this one with written vows but is does say break your word)

Deaf + Tongues(A deaf person talking?)

Deaf + Wolf-scarred face (Great combo because all spells I SPEAK get 20% fail but they are all silent due to Deaf)

Also final side note I haven't found a straight answer on this:

For Tiefling and Assimar i know the other abilities aren't useable but what about the stat adjustments?(Before you look it up)

Other: variant tiefling abilities are not legal for Pathfinder Society; oracle curses on page 26 are legal; Inquisitons on pages 26–27 are legal;

Other: variant assimar abilities are not legal for Pathfinder Society; Oracle Curses on page 26 are legal; Inquisitons on pages 26–27 are legal;


Deaf + Tongues(A deaf person talking?) at first you still can not understand others


icewhisp wrote:

For Tiefling and Assimar i know the other abilities aren't useable but what about the stat adjustments?(Before you look it up)

Other: variant tiefling abilities are not legal for Pathfinder Society; oracle curses on page 26 are legal; Inquisitons on pages 26–27 are legal;

Other: variant assimar abilities are not legal for Pathfinder Society; Oracle Curses on page 26 are legal; Inquisitons on pages 26–27 are legal;

The "roll on the table" stat boosts aren't legal, if that's what you're asking.


I heard someone said oracle, so I came to see what's up.

Deaf + Wolf-Scarred Face = a RP-heavy cosmetic thing! I have one of these and it's like only having one curse at all, and you have a great RP talking point! This particular character curses the gods because they cursed him, and he grew up in Rahadoum so it fits.

If you took tongues, remember there's nothing against your character speaking even if you're deaf. You can always give battle tactics to other people if you're just deaf. However, if you have another character speaking for you, this curse would make more sense RP-wise, and also remember it grants a free language as well.

Either way, I think you're good on your combo. Deaf is one of the best curses to dual-curse with.

...plus, the Misfortune revelation is pure gold.

A question for you: Were you planning to have your deaf curse advance or your other curse?

Silver Crusade

The variant heritage Aasimara and Tieflings are perfectly legal for PFS play. It's just the massive tables that are not, as Bearded Ben said.

Remember, the curse does not necessarily have to be something you were born with. You could have developed your powers suddenly when you hit puberty, so deaf + tongues would make perfect sense. Heck, you could even roleplay it that you don't even realize you're speaking in tongues because you CAN'T HEAR YOURSELF SPEAK!!!!

Damnit, now I wanna do this, I just don't like the bonus spells dual-cursed oracles get in place of the ones life oracles get.

Since this thread is already about oracles, does anybody know if you can take "lip-reading" as a bonus language from either high Int or the linguistics skill so you can still communicate with people?


1 point in linguistics = you can choose the "read lips" "language."

Silver Crusade

Yiroep wrote:
1 point in linguistics = you can choose the "read lips" "language."

Oh that's awesome. Now I need to decide if my life oracle is going to be deaf or speak in tongues.


Bigdaddyjug wrote:
Damnit, now I wanna do this, I just don't like the bonus spells dual-cursed oracles get in place of the ones life oracles get.

I actually have a high level life oracle (14) and thought the exact same thing, and didn't dual curse.

My conclusion: Being dual-cursed is totally worth it for a life oracle, especially if you're human. If you're human, you can get so many bonus spells that the few mystery spells won't really matter. Even if you're not human, the things you get are so worth it. I kind of regret not doing it, honestly, although I do love my character (he's consumed curse...yes, I really did choose that one, haha, and yes it's awful).

Really, I think being dual-cursed is almost always worth it unless your first three mystery spells are spells you could not get otherwise that would be essential to your build (such as oracle of flames getting fireball). Extra revelations, a couple of really good optional revelations, all for the price of one curse that also gives you a small benefit. It's really a solid deal, and the spells it replaces actually aren't that shabby really.

Silver Crusade

See, it's only 1 extra revelation for a PFS character though, because you won't get to 13th level.

And the build I'm going with is life oracle 8/hospitaler paladin 4 and it's based around taking channeling and life link as my first 2 revelations. So I won't get misfortune until oracle 5 (character level 9) at the earliest and fortune not until oracle 7 (character level 11).

I'll also need all the HP I can get for the build, so taking the alternate human favored class bonus may not be an options.

So it probably just isn't worth it for the specific character I'm building.

Paizo Employee Contributor

Bigdaddyjug wrote:
See, it's only 1 extra revelation for a PFS character though, because you won't get to 13th level.

People don't take dual-cursed oracle for a bonus revelation. They get it for the make-everyone-reroll-(even your allies)-once-per-day revelation.

Silver Crusade

Ron Lundeen wrote:
Bigdaddyjug wrote:
See, it's only 1 extra revelation for a PFS character though, because you won't get to 13th level.
People don't take dual-cursed oracle for a bonus revelation. They get it for the make-everyone-reroll-(even your allies)-once-per-day revelation.

I covered that in the same post you quoted.


icewhisp wrote:
Deaf + Legalistic (I can kinda see this one with written vows but is does say break your word)

"Break your word" means "break a vow." It is not exclusive to spoken or written language in its idiomatic or literal meaning (it can be "written word" just as easily as t can be "spoken word"). Signing a vow would also count, because it's not language-dependent.


Bigdaddyjug wrote:

See, it's only 1 extra revelation for a PFS character though, because you won't get to 13th level.

And the build I'm going with is life oracle 8/hospitaler paladin 4 and it's based around taking channeling and life link as my first 2 revelations. So I won't get misfortune until oracle 5 (character level 9) at the earliest and fortune not until oracle 7 (character level 11).

I'll also need all the HP I can get for the build, so taking the alternate human favored class bonus may not be an options.

So it probably just isn't worth it for the specific character I'm building.

If channeling is your thing and your thing only, I would highly recommend being an aasimar, elf, or sylph (if you have a boon) and using their alternate favored class ability into your channeling ability so that you count as higher level for channeling.

Also, again it's only 1 curse, and if you're deaf mechanically wolf-scarred face does NOTHING. But if the mystery spells are that important to you, then sure. There's nothing wrong with it at all, really.

Edit: My oracle of life is 14, so yes it does go higher if you can get a group for it. :p


Also, if you want another revelation you can always buy a Ring of Revelation later on.

Silver Crusade

I was going to be an Aasimar but I really need the human bonus feat.


Soothsayer's Raiment also adds a Revelation, and is +1 chainmail to boot.

-j

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