Minimum LVL to create Belt of Incredible Dexterity +4


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Belt of Incredible Dexterity
CL8
Construction Requirements
+2 Dex 2,000 GP
+4 Dex 8,000 GP
+6 Dex 18,000 GP

Craft Wonderous item & Cat's Grace

The DC to create a magic item is 5+ CL of the item. Note that all items have prerequisites in their discriptions. These prerequisites must be met for the item to be created. Most of the time, they take the form of spells that must be known by the item's creator. The DC to create a magic item increases by +5 for each prerequisite the caster does not meet.

So the minimum LvL to create a Belt of Dex is lvl 3 when you can take the Craft Wonderous feat, but the DC Craft check would be CL8 +5 for creation +5 if you don't have Cat's Grace for a total of 18 if you had the 2,000 GP.

They don't state any lvl requirements on creating with higher bonuses. So would a +4 Belt of Incredible Dexterity be possible if you could afford it?

I'm lvl 7 and was curious about creating a +4 belt, but know some items like Amulet of Natural Armor has a prerequisite of the caster level be 3X's the enhancement bonus. I didn't see any such restriction on the Belt and was curious. It also says that there is a 3X's Caster level to the enhancement on Armor. Anyone have a clarification on this?


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There's a recent FAQ that covers it. The long and short is that you can ignore pretty much any prerequisite by taking the +5 DC. Yes, that includes the 3x bonus CL restrictions.


If you can afford it and you can meet the craft DC, there is no level requirement beyond the requisite feat. Even things like the caster level requirement for magic weapons and Amulet of Natural Armor can be waived with an additional +5 to the DC.

Sovereign Court

Caster Level is not a requirement for item creation in PF. It is used solely for aura strength and determining the difficulty in creating the item. EDIT: and the difficulty in identifying items.

As to the question, the lowest level one can create the item is 3rd (the level requirement for the Craft Wondrous Items feat). The feat is the only requirement that cannot be given up for a +5 to DC. Additionally, each prerequisite not met adds 5 to the DC.

So a 3rd level wizard with an 18 Int, access to cat's grace and 3 ranks in Spellcraft (total modifier of +10), would have to roll a 3 or better to make that belt ...

For weapons and armor (and other items where it is specifically mentioned), there is a caster level requirement. For some other items (such as belt of dwarvenkind) there are other requirements as well.


Thanks for the speedy response and clarification.

Belt of Dex +4 8,000 GP
CL8 +5 creation +5 to do 1,000 GP in 4 hours instead of 8 for 18 total or 23 if I don't take Cat's Grace.

If GM allows me to take 10 in a controlled enviornment and I have 13 Spell Craft. I would have 23 and finish the belt in 4 days. Does that look correct?

Barring the stipulation of GM making me roll since a failure would make it a cursed item. He suggested me take 10 so I don't think it would be an issue. Just wanted to double check my math.

Sovereign Court

Looks right. And it would only be a cursed item if you rolled a 5 or less ...

Also, if any other party member can cast the needed spell you can bypass the DC increase from not having the spell (which would also make it impossible to create a cursed item).

Grand Lodge

ALL HAIL THE GREAT ASMODEUS, AS HE SHALL SPARE YOUR MORTAL SOULS


Chemlak wrote:
There's a recent FAQ that covers it. The long and short is that you can ignore pretty much any prerequisite by taking the +5 DC. Yes, that includes the 3x bonus CL restrictions.

I was wondering if anyone had a link to this.


Here!

http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9qc0


Thank you for the assistance :D

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