Taking multiple Archetypes for the same class


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Liberty's Edge 1/5 5/5

Its my understanding that some archetypes can be applies at the same time. And if one arch class modifies the base class and then the other deletes that ability, then so be it.

Is that true for the Elven Treesinger and Plains Druid?
If I'm right, then she can:
(1) Still turn into a plant, but she does so later in levels.
(2) Only apply the Animal affinity ability to plants (and to animals at a -4.

Is this correct?

I wonder what the most archetypes are that have been applied, all at once to the same class?

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Washington—Spokane

I am not sure on applying multiple archetypes to the same class but I do know that if an archetype replaces an ability you have already gained at an earlier level, you are not able to take the archetype. This is from the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized play book. Hope this helps and if someone else that posts finds my answer incorrect, please let me know. Thanks.

Silver Crusade 3/5

You can apply two archetypes ONLY IF they don't modify/replace the same ability.

Link to the PRD.

(3rd paragraph)

In particular, this means no Treesinger of the Plains, as they both modify wild shape.


Evånjölyn wrote:
I wonder what the most archetypes are that have been applied, all at once to the same class?

There are several possible triple archetype combinations, and I think one or two ways to stack four.

Edit: Monk (Qinggong Drunken Sensei of the Four Winds) is one of the quadruples. I'm not certain there are any non-monk quads.

5/5 *

I saw a mindchemist, internal alchemist, vivisectionist (before the ban) which is one of the triples

3/5

Azrakon
Male Tiefling
Magus (Kensai, Blade Bound, Fiend Flayer)

I haven't played him yet but I'm pretty sure the archetypes work together.

Liberty's Edge 1/5 5/5

The Fox wrote:

You can apply two archetypes ONLY IF they don't modify/replace the same ability.

Link to the PRD.

(3rd paragraph)

In particular, this means no Treesinger of the Plains, as they both modify wild shape.

Plains Druid Wild Shape (Su):
A plains druid gains this ability at 6th level, except that her effective druid level for the ability is equal to her druid level – 2.

Treesinger Wild Shape (Su):
At 4th level, a treesinger gains the ability to wild shape. This ability functions at her actual druid level. A treesinger cannot use wild shape to adopt an animal or elemental form. Instead, when she gains this ability at 4th level, she can assume the form of a Small or Medium plant. This functions as plant shape I, except the treesinger does not yet gain access to the constrict or poison abilities of the plant form assumed.

It seems to me that one modifies it to plants while the other delays and weakens its potency by two levels. They should sync up nicely.

That being said, I will concede that the easiest way to answer this question for Society Play is with a blanket NO; it requires too much thought and special-casedness.

Still, back to the other topic, I'd like to hear more of those crazy archetype mashups. Boy, I also wonder how many Society-approved combos have been played with multi-classing and if any of them were anything better than pure mud.

Sczarni 2/5

If it does ANYTHING to a feature, even delaying it, it counts as altering it. Any alteration makes it so you can't take another alternate that also does so. This includes adding but not removing options of feat choices or skills...still counts as an alteration.

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