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If a caster possess an intelligent undead with magic jar, does the caster gain Immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms)?
My thinking is that the target's body still maintains its type and subtype, so any mind affecting spell would be targeting the physical brain (or lack thereof) of the undead target and not the caster's lifeforce/psyche.
Thoughts?
The rules are silent on the matter, but this board's consensus seems to be that your mental faculties remain unaltered. So you wouldn't gain the undead's mind immunities (since your soul/life force isn't actually undead) but you'd keep any mental buffs you might have had before the transfer.
Has there been any clarification on magic jar with regards to this question by the developers? I'm also interested in two different cases related to this.
1) You cast parasitic soul and move the trapped soul (say, via soul bind) of an intelligent undead creature into a human body. Does that intelligent undead still have immunity to mind-affecting abilities?
2) You reincarnate a dead elf, and it ends up as a human. Presumably, it doesn't keep its sleep immunity. But both reincarnate and parasitic soul reference the transfer of souls - so why would magic jar not change racial features like immunities if reincarnate does?
Perhaps I am misunderstanding reincarnate here, so any pointers on this subject would be appreciated.
Given that the undead are immunne to mind affecting effects, you can't magic jar them.
Magic Jar isn't mind affecting though. Personally I don't know why being undead makes you immune to mind affecting if you still have a mind...
Given that the undead are immunne to mind affecting effects, you can't magic jar them.If a caster possess an intelligent undead with magic jar, does the caster gain Immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms)?
My thinking is that the target's body still maintains its type and subtype, so any mind affecting spell would be targeting the physical brain (or lack thereof) of the undead target and not the caster's lifeforce/psyche.
Thoughts?
Yes, you can.
1) Magic jar is not mind-affecting.2) The target of magic jar does not rule out living creatures.
3) This sentence of the spell specifically addresses undead: "(Undead creatures are powered by negative energy. Only sentient undead creatures have, or are, souls.)"
Given that the undead are immunne to mind affecting effects, you can't magic jar them.Magic Jar isn't mind affecting though. Personally I don't know why being undead makes you immune to mind affecting if you still have a mind...
I also wonder this, and it seems to be debated a lot. However, Magic jar and similar spells seem to involve souls, which aren't covered in any comprehensive way by the rules.