Re-naming the Paladin


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I am re-flavoring the paladin class to handle a variety of different beliefs/religions, some that maybe more arcane in nature, such as a god of magic.

I was thinking Athame or Templar, but I was looking for some suggestions.

Thank you,
-Hexen


Templar is a good generic name for a holy warrior.

That's my vote :)


Kryzbyn wrote:

Templar is a good generic name for a holy warrior.

That's my vote :)

Yeah, but I was trying to get away from the Christian ideology. A lot of the religions in my world are not as organized and even more arcane in nature, and Templar doesn't fit too well because of this.


I changed it to more of a church knight and am using Templar.

You could use Champion, as in Iomedae's Champion or Mammon's Champion.

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Champion is an option if you're talking about causes instead of just religions.


Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:
Kryzbyn wrote:

Templar is a good generic name for a holy warrior.

That's my vote :)

Yeah, but I was trying to get away from the Christian ideology. A lot of the religions in my world are not as organized and even more arcane in nature, and Templar doesn't fit too well because of this.

I guess this would only matter if you have Christians and crusades on your world.


Vod Canockers wrote:

I changed it to more of a church knight and am using Templar.

You could use Champion, as in Iomedae's Champion or Mammon's Champion.

I was thinking about that one. It comes off as a bit no-mystic/religious in nature, which is why I didn't mention it. Will give more thought though.


Champion is good and vanilla.


Kryzbyn wrote:
Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:
Kryzbyn wrote:

Templar is a good generic name for a holy warrior.

That's my vote :)

Yeah, but I was trying to get away from the Christian ideology. A lot of the religions in my world are not as organized and even more arcane in nature, and Templar doesn't fit too well because of this.
I guess this would only matter if you have Christians and crusades on your world.

No, not really the issue, we just have a lot of christian infulanced names of classes because we have a lot of religions that are very similar in order equivalence in Goloran (Paladin and Inquisitor). However this doesn't fit to well for a nature, elemental, tribal, or generally less organized and more cultural based religions in my opinion.


Ahh ok.


Thirded on Champion. Recognizable, simple, and descriptive ("I am a Champion of Iomedae, fear my wrath evil doer!").


I fourth Champion; I think it sounds regal, strong, and sacred.


What about Exemplar?


Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:
What about Exemplar?

Doesn't particularly fit. Usually used to refer to an exemplary PHYSICAL specimen rather than a...

Huh. How about Paragon?

Sorry, was gonna finish that sentence with "paragon of virtue" but it really does seem to fit pretty well for a Paladin rename.


Rynjin wrote:
Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:
What about Exemplar?

Doesn't particularly fit. Usually used to refer to an exemplary PHYSICAL specimen rather than a...

Huh. How about Paragon?

Sorry, was gonna finish that sentence with "paragon of virtue" but it really does seem to fit pretty well for a Paladin rename.

Exemplar is frequently used for a Perfect Exemple. Doh, paragon, well yeah that sort of fits nicely. However it sort of used by another class I made T_T maybe I can think of a new name.


Crusader?


Eh, I don't see why you need a name change, really.


Crusader might conflict with the Cleric Archetype. Though Paladin is perfectly fine.

I am making it Paths they can follow for Alternate Alignments. Paladin will have the Paths of Order, Balance, and Freedom. Anti-Paladin will have the Paths of Tyrany, Balance, and Disorder.

The idea is for LG to be in conflict with CE and CG to be in conflict with LE. NG & NE are more of just ensuring their side doesn't fall behind the other.


Azaelas Fayth wrote:

Crusader might conflict with the Cleric Archetype. Though Paladin is perfectly fine.

I am making it Paths they can follow for Alternate Alignments. Paladin will have the Paths of Order, Balance, and Freedom. Anti-Paladin will have the Paths of Tyrany, Balance, and Disorder.

The idea is for LG to be in conflict with CE and CG to be in conflict with LE. NG & NE are more of just ensuring their side doesn't fall behind the other.

Balance sounds a bit too TN-ish. Perhaps Path of Benevolence for NG and Path of Malice for NE?


I was thinking of Balance handling all 5 of the Neutral Alignments... Though that could work.


You could use a foreign word instead of an English one. Just go to http://translate.google.com type in "knight" or "paragon" and try different European languages until you see something you like.


Azaelas Fayth wrote:
I was thinking of Balance handling all 5 of the Neutral Alignments... Though that could work.

Perhaps change LG to Justice, leave Order to LN... CN could be all sorts of terms - Chaos, Mayhem, Calamity, Discord, etc.


Rynjin wrote:
Huh. How about Paragon?

Vegeta disagrees.


servitor? with a prefix or suffix which designates their general area? a Servitor of Asmodeus would be the big joke there.

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Avatar (a word of Sanskrit/Hindu origin)

Maybe Guardian if you make it a proper noun (A Guardian of Torag)


Orthos wrote:
Azaelas Fayth wrote:
I was thinking of Balance handling all 5 of the Neutral Alignments... Though that could work.
Perhaps change LG to Justice, leave Order to LN... CN could be all sorts of terms - Chaos, Mayhem, Calamity, Discord, etc.

Oh that is wonderful.


Avatar would work assuming the vibe you wanted to give was that Paladins are less servants of a god and more slivers of their power given mortal form.

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