Effortless Trickery- move action concentration?


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Effortless Trickery

Benefit: You can maintain concentration on one spell of the illusion school as a swift action. This has no effect on spells of other schools or on illusion spells with durations that don’t depend on your active concentration. While you may only maintain one spell as a swift action, you may take your move and standard actions to maintain other spells normally, if you wish.

Normal: Concentrating to maintain a spell is a standard action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity.

Does this feat allow you to maintain an illusion spell as a MOVE action, in addition to as a swift action?


GM Arkwright wrote:


Does this feat allow you to maintain an illusion spell as a MOVE action, in addition to as a swift action?

As I see it, no.

The feat is pretty clear on what it do. There might be a blunder regarding the move action text, but it seem pretty specific that you the swift action concentration on top of the 'normal' concentration possibilities.


GM Arkwright wrote:

Effortless Trickery

Benefit: You can maintain concentration on one spell of the illusion school as a swift action. This has no effect on spells of other schools or on illusion spells with durations that don’t depend on your active concentration. While you may only maintain one spell as a swift action, you may take your move and standard actions to maintain other spells normally, if you wish.

Normal: Concentrating to maintain a spell is a standard action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity.

Does this feat allow you to maintain an illusion spell as a MOVE action, in addition to as a swift action?

Unless you have some voodoo that normally lets your maintain as a move action, I don't think so.


You can maintain ONE as a swift and ONE as a standard and then you may take a normal move action.

It does not let you maintain one as a move action, but you can maintain concentration on 2 Illusions the way I described.

Also since you can maintain one as a swift action you can cast a major image of yourself and maintain it all day long. Two Yous! YAY! My gnome does that and has a Ring of Invis so that adds to the fun. Hasn't tlaked to anyone face to face in forever...

Add Shadow Gambit to the feat list and you've got yourself a pretty sneaky illusionist/battle field befuddler.


However You can Concentrate on an allusion as a swift action and a standard action and still get to move.


Interesting, thanks fellas.

Good thing there is this feat for letting me concentrate as a move action. Three illusions at a time for the win.


remember though you cannot cast a spell while you are already concentrating on one. you may still have your move and standard actions, but if you use them to cast a spell, the spell you are currently concentrating on will stop.

prd description
Concentration: The spell lasts as long as you concentrate on it. Concentrating to maintain a spell is a standard action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity. Anything that could break your concentration when casting a spell can also break your concentration while you're maintaining one, causing the spell to end. See concentration.

You can't cast a spell while concentrating on another one. Some spells last for a short time after you cease concentrating.


So what that means is you have to cast a quickened silent image, and silent image in the same round, and then concentrate on both the following round to have two active ones going at the same time.


seeing that at any time you take damage, even outside your own turn, you will have to make a concentration check to maintain that spell. most gms would take that to mean that once you cast the first spell, you are concentrating on it and therefore cannot cast another.

for instance in your own example, suppose you had an enemy ready an action to shoot you with an arrow between those 2 spells. you would still have to make a concentration check on the first spell because you took damage while concentrating on the spell. that would imply you cannot cast the second one since you are considered to be concentrating on the first spell for the entire duration of it, not just when you take the concentrate action to continue the spell.


Huh; I am very disappointed. But that is a clear ruling, thanks asthyril.


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Hmm.

You can maintain concentration on one spell of the illusion school as a swift action. This has no effect on spells of other schools or on illusion spells with durations that don’t depend on your active concentration. While you may only maintain one spell as a swift action, you may take your move and standard actions to maintain other spells normally, if you wish.

Sounds like you can, with this feat.

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