Bleeding Attack


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I am a GM and I have a pc in my campaign who took bleeding. He is having fun with it but I want to make sure that it isn't overused and doesn't overpower the campaign. What are the exact rules on a monster "not being able to defend itself"?

Are there any other limits I can use on it? I was thinking that it wouldn't work on demons.

Thanks for the advice


What do you mean by 'not being able to defend itself'?

should work on demons, just doesnt on creatures not alive, and that dont have blood (ooze, undead, plants) is a DC 10 or 15 (cant remember) Heal check as a standard to stop, or a single point of healing.


Bleeding Attack has to be done as a sneak attack. The rules state "Sneak Attack: If a rogue can catch an opponent when he is unable to defend himself effectively from her attack, she can strike a vital spot for extra damage."

So what situations count for not being able to defend oneself effectively?


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You need to continue reading the rule entry for sneak attack beyond the first sentence which is basically just descriptive. You can use a sneak attack anytime an opponent is denied his detexity bonus against you, or when you and an ally are flanking the opponent. These are the situations that are described as the opponent "being unable to defend himself effectively".


That makes sense, thanks.


Went looking for a thread on this.

I like the idea of it working with bashing, to represent internal bleeding.

Got a level 8 rogue ready that uses bleed with a two handed bastard sword and improved feint.


Heh. Just hope your player doesn't realize there's a combat feat called Bleeding Attack that doesn't require a sneak attack at all...although you need Imp. Unarmed Strike.

:)


Just so you know, rogues kind of suck. Bleeding attack is one of those nice things about the class. Don't punish your player for choosing a good option out of a sea of piss.


You can call all their abilities a sea of piss if you want to be vulgar, but I don't agree and I find a lot that I like. So yes, taking the bleeding attack, some combat feats and a very diverse skill list buffed up by a few select skill focuses.

This rogue is ready for the mega dungeon my dm is planning.

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