Charaltan Rogue talents

[jakolol]

Just about to level my first Charlatan and would like some input on how Natural Born Liar and Convincing Lie synergies with Rumormonger? if indeed they do.

[VRMH]

Natural Born Liar
Convincing Lie
Rumormonger

I can't see how they would interact at all, let alone provide synergy.

[StreamOfTheSky]

Don't use Convincing Lie, and hope your DM never sees it; it actually nerfs the entire Bluff mechanic.

Common sense would dictate you are not lying if you say what you think is true. Convincing Lie says otherwise, forever nerfing the use of spreading misinformation through 3rd parties / middlemen.

[jakolol]

Thanks for the reply's,

VRMH. you cant see how having a rumor spread by someone using your much higher bluff skill, thereby being more convincing and therefore more compelling would not help spread a rumor faster? particularly after making them more inclined to believe you?

StremOfTheSky, that's a fairly uncommon, common sense you are using there, as romormonger is about convincing a hearer that the rumor needs to be spread, not convincing the teller that what they are saying is true, just because you think what your saying is true, does not make it true.
Its the reverse of nerfing, it makes the retelling of a lie more believable, as its effect is to make the 3rd party role sense motive against your nominally higher bluff. than the bluff of the nobody that is retelling your rumor. Of course the underlying assumption is that your rumor is a bald faced lie to begin with, if what your spreading is the truth well just go and tell people.rumormonger as i see it, is a mechanism that determines 1. if your rumor spreads and 2. how fast it spreads.