Coat of Many Stars, and the other Oracle Armor Revelations


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Coat of Many Stars (Su): You conjure a coat of starry radiance that grants you a +4 armor bonus. At 7th level, and every four levels thereafter, this bonus increases by +2. At 13th level, this armor grants you DR 5/slashing. You can use this coat for 1 hour per day per oracle level. The duration does not need to be consecutive; it can instead be spent in 1-hour increments.

Conjure implies, but does not state, create a physical _____________. As such, does Magic Vestment be cast these conjured suits?

Although I chose coat of may stars, many oracle mysteries have similarly worded armor abilities.

This is not a rule question at large, it is specifically limited to PFS play. I understand if it gets moved to Rules, even if it ends up there, please limit to PFS specific rulings. (I can find none)

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Coat of Many Stars grants a +4 armor bonus.

The coat is neither a set of clothes, suit of armor or a shield. Therefore Magic Vestment cannot be cast on the conjured coat.

Pull the fluff away and you have a supernatural ability that gives you a +4 Armor bonus that improves as you level.

Its not much different than Mage Armor: "An invisible but tangible field of force surrounds the subject of a Mage Armor spell, providing a +4 armor bonus to AC."

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Nebten wrote:

Coat of Many Stars grants a +4 armor bonus.

The coat is neither a set of clothes, suit of armor or a shield. Therefore Magic Vestment cannot be cast on the conjured coat.

Pull the fluff away and you have a supernatural ability that gives you a +4 Armor bonus that improves as you level.

Its not much different than Mage Armor: "An invisible but tangible field of force surrounds the subject of a Mage Armor spell, providing a +4 armor bonus to AC."

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There are, however, other armor revelations, as mentioned by the OP. For example:

Wood Armor wrote:
You can conjure wooden armor around yourself, which grants you a +4 armor bonus. At 7th level, and every four levels thereafter, this bonus increases by +2. At 13th level, this armor grants you DR 5/slashing. You can use this armor for 1 hour per day per oracle level. This duration does not need to be consecutive, but it must be spent in 1-hour increments. The armor vanishes if you remove it.

This is explicitly armor. So can Magic Vestment be cast upon it?

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I disagree with Nebten. All of these are explicitly conjured clothing or armour, and should be a legal target for the spell. Granted, if it disappears and reappears, you will need to cast it again.


Hrm, this is a question I'm quite interested in...

So, I have a Dark Tapestry oracle who plans to polymorph a lot using his Many Forms revelation. I was planning on the Cloak of Darkness revelation (the Dark Tapestry armor equivalent) to boost my AC when I'm polymorphed.

Does it stay on when I polymorph? If so, would magic vestment also stay?

Kind of makes you think twice of it being "actual clothing."


Interesting question, I've flagged for rules forum as well tho.


I would say conjured armor is armor. Just like a conjured animal is an animal.
Therefore you should be able to use magic vestement on it.


Furious Kender wrote:

I would say conjured armor is armor. Just like a conjured animal is an animal.

Therefore you should be able to use magic vestement on it.

I'm inclined to agree.


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can i cast Coat of Many Stars on a character that is already wearing say a chain shirt and get +4 for the chain shirt and a +4 for the Coat for a total of +8 or do they cancel each other out?

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You get +4 period.

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qwerty1971 wrote:
can i cast Coat of Many Stars on a character that is already wearing say a chain shirt and get +4 for the chain shirt and a +4 for the Coat for a total of +8 or do they cancel each other out?

You get the higher of the two, so +4. You can't cast Magic Vestment since it isn't anything like clothing.


Huh?

Magic Vestment:

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You imbue a suit of armor or a shield with an enhancement bonus of +1 per four caster levels (maximum +5 at 20th level).
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Coat of Many Stars (Su): You conjure a coat of starry radiance that grants you a +4 armor bonus. At 7th level, and every four levels thereafter, this bonus increases by +2. At 13th level, this armor grants you DR 5/slashing. You can use this coat for 1 hour per day per oracle level. The duration does not need to be consecutive; it can instead be spent in 1-hour increments.

It's conjured armor, magic vestment works.


Magic Vestment functions fine for regular clothing so I don't see why it wouldn't work for the Coat of Many Stars.

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