Yes, by RAW. The abuse capable by way of paragon surge is a topic of frequent discussion on these forums.
I believe it is cheesey, I don't think the designer of paragon surge really thought through all the potential abuses.
It is just too versatile.
The drawback to this tactic would be not having Spell Perfection normally. You can only take it once.
So, you'd gain the flexibility to spend a round to apply it to whatever spell you want on the fly. But on the flipside, you'd *have* to spend a round on setup to ever use it at all.
I think you'd generally be better off just finding one win spell and one win meta feat to apply to it and locking in on that and spamming it. That does require a great deal of planning, examination, and deliberation, of course. Some people just don't enjoy pouring hours and hours into thinking of the metagame.
EDIT: On the note of win spells, and going the complete opposite direction of the OP....
Spell Perfection on Paragon Surge so you can cast it quickened as a 3rd level slot to gain a spell known and still have a standard action to cast said spell would be pretty nice.
Paragon Surge was clearly designed for a fighter type picking up something like Weapon Focus or whatever. I think it was meant for gishes, and thus not considered overly power. However, the designer forgot all the spell-related feats that help the people most likely. Spell Perfection is a pretty awesome use for it, but the most common and abusive ones are Expanded Arcana and Improved Eldritch Heritage Arcane.
And yeah, Stream of the Sky is correct that it stops you from taking it normally--in fact, most Paragon Surge focused characters I've seen actually take Spell Perfection for Paragon Surge itself so they can Quicken it for free.
Bah, mpl ninja'd my edit. :D
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Where does it say you can only take spell perfection once? I've seen builds here where the feat is taken multiple times on different spells.The drawback to this tactic would be not having Spell Perfection normally. You can only take it once.
Those builds are in error. Unless the feat specifically says you may (i.e. Weapon Focus, Spell Focus, Extra Arcana), you may not take a feat multiple times.
Otherwise, you might be better off taking Improved Initiative two or three times.
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Paragon Surge was clearly designed for a fighter type picking up something like Weapon Focus or whatever. I think it was meant for gishes, and thus not considered overly power.
I think you're giving them too much credit. As far as I'm concerned, the thought process behind the spell was just "What if we temporarily gave half-elves the powers of both elves and humans? Elves get some ability score bonuses, humans get a bonus feat. Done, this spell is now perfect!"
Paragon Surge was clearly designed for a fighter type picking up something like Weapon Focus or whatever. I think it was meant for gishes, and thus not considered overly power.I think you're giving them too much credit. As far as I'm concerned, the thought process behind the spell was just "What if we temporarily gave half-elves the powers of both elves and humans? Elves get some ability score bonuses, humans get a bonus feat. Done, this spell is now perfect!"
Hmm, yeah, good point. That does seem the most likely. I guess I just hoped they put more thought in it than that...