Heirloom Weapon (Prof) vs Exotic Weapon Proficiency


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Liberty's Edge

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If I take a Heirloom Weapon (Prof) - Aldori Dueling Sword, do I still need to take EWP (Aldori Dueling Sword) if I want to get Aldori Dueling Mastery?


Well I would say no since Heirloom gives you proficiency with the weapon. If you are proficient in said weapon you should be able to bypass the EWP feat requirement for Aldori Dueling Mastery.

Grand Lodge

Heirloom Weapon works for one Martial or Simple weapon, and just that one weapon.

You should check the errata'd version here.


Oh... I did not know it was erata'd, well I guess I am wrong.

Grand Lodge

The Heirloom Weapon trait is much weaker now.

I suggest the Sword Scion trait instead for this.


I will show this to my group but I foresee us using our own house ruled version of Heirloom instead of this version.

Our version is you get proficiency in with one weapon and only that one weapon and you get a +1 bonus to attack. But it is all up to the group, if they like the new version they might just go with that.

Grand Lodge

Note, that does not count as the proficiency feat.

Liberty's Edge

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Thank you for the clarification on Heirloom Weapon...ok so if I pickup Sword Scion trait, I receive a dueling sword and it also gives me +1 on all uses...so again I would not need the EWP correct?


I think you would need ewp. The feat requires a full and complete understanding of the aldori dueling sword, which your character doesn't have because he's only learned to swing that one particular blade.

Silver Crusade

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The Sword Scion trait does not give any kind of weapon proficiency whatsoever.

It gives a +1 attack (and CMB) bonus with all longswords and Aldori Dueling swords, and let's you start play with an ordinary longsword or ADS.

I'm playing Kingmaker right now, and my PC has the Sword Scion trait and intends to end up as a ranger2/fighter(weapon master)4/duelist? At the moment we've just reached 4th.

I chose half-elf and the Ancestral Weapons alternate race trait to get EWP (Aldori Dueling Sword). I wouldn't have done that if the Sword Scion trait gave me the EWP.

Grand Lodge

The only trait that I know of that gives you proficiency with anything(not just a specific weapon), is the Shaonti Tattoo trait, which gives you proficiency with Earth Breakers, Klars, and Shoanti bolas.

I suggest the Sword Scion trait because of the flat +1 to attack rolls with Aldori Dueling Swords, and a free weapon.

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