Ten day countdown till voting ends


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mamaursula wrote:
I'm going to be pretty angry if I am still "Dedicated" when this is over and still have not seen Andrew's item. I figure I must be near Marathon by just...3 more hours sigh

Just 1 hour left!

Sorry, mamaursula... ;)

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donato wrote:
Are we able to start discussing items once voting ends?

Breaking anonymity (i.e. discussing your own item) will still get you DQd, but the contest rules don't seem to forbid discussing other people's items after voting ends.

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Feros wrote:
mamaursula wrote:
I'm going to be pretty angry if I am still "Dedicated" when this is over and still have not seen Andrew's item. I figure I must be near Marathon by just...3 more hours sigh

Just 1 hour left!

Sorry, mamaursula... ;)

Yeah, that's me, a day late and a gp short.

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KatDangerous wrote:
Breaking anonymity (i.e. discussing your own item) will still get you DQd, but the contest rules don't seem to forbid discussing other people's items after voting ends.

True, but what if you watched as people tore your item apart and couldn't defend it properly? Or as sole defender, made yourself known? Nope, too dangerous for me. I'll wait until I know I'm out of the running before I go down that road.

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theheadkase wrote:

@Feros

I was just thinking about that this morning on my way to work. I have seen probably 35-40 items I really liked and probably 8-10 that wowed me. I would like to think my own item is in the 35-40 group and HOPE that it's in the top 32.

Of course, maybe I have no idea at all what is Superstar.

My feelings exactly.

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KatDangerous wrote:
donato wrote:
Are we able to start discussing items once voting ends?
Breaking anonymity (i.e. discussing your own item) will still get you DQd, but the contest rules don't seem to forbid discussing other people's items after voting ends.

While it doesn't spell it out, it is only my personal opinion that that discussing other people's items could be in bad taste. We have mocked the heck out of many of the general tropes that we've seen, but to get specific is sort of like calling a person out and then they can't say anything about it.

Upon reflecting on that, next year I may enter an item of some kind so that people can talk about it and be part of the process on both the giving and receiving, otherwise I'll feel like a hypocrite.

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Feros wrote:
KatDangerous wrote:
Breaking anonymity (i.e. discussing your own item) will still get you DQd, but the contest rules don't seem to forbid discussing other people's items after voting ends.
True, but what if you watched as people tore your item apart and couldn't defend it properly? Or as sole defender, made yourself known? Nope, too dangerous for me. I'll wait until I know I'm out of the running before I go down that road.

Sounds like excellent practice for the top 32.

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KatDangerous wrote:
donato wrote:
Are we able to start discussing items once voting ends?
Breaking anonymity (i.e. discussing your own item) will still get you DQd, but the contest rules don't seem to forbid discussing other people's items after voting ends.

I'm 98% sure that I saw a judge post somewhere that it is forbidden to comment before that top 32 are announced. I can't seem to find it though.

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Feros wrote:
KatDangerous wrote:
Breaking anonymity (i.e. discussing your own item) will still get you DQd, but the contest rules don't seem to forbid discussing other people's items after voting ends.
True, but what if you watched as people tore your item apart and couldn't defend it properly? Or as sole defender, made yourself known? Nope, too dangerous for me. I'll wait until I know I'm out of the running before I go down that road.

Oh I think I'm safe in that regard, I'm just a spectator. I guess the seven days ahead of us are a good test of professionalism for the contestants. It may be unwise to read any threads where items are being discussed for the reasons you mentioned. On the other hand, those who make it to round 2 will have to endure criticism, you'll have to grow a thick skin sooner or later.

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mamaursula wrote:
KatDangerous wrote:
donato wrote:
Are we able to start discussing items once voting ends?
Breaking anonymity (i.e. discussing your own item) will still get you DQd, but the contest rules don't seem to forbid discussing other people's items after voting ends.
While it doesn't spell it out, it is only my personal opinion that that discussing other people's items could be in bad taste.

Oh I agree... mocking individual items would be cruel. But I'm sure people also have a lot of good things to say too. It'd be a bit cynical to assume that "discussion" only means bashing other people's designs.

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Feros wrote:
mamaursula wrote:
I'm going to be pretty angry if I am still "Dedicated" when this is over and still have not seen Andrew's item. I figure I must be near Marathon by just...3 more hours sigh

Just 1 hour left!

Sorry, mamaursula... ;)

slides in, dusts off 15 minutes to spare.

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KatDangerous wrote:
Oh I think I'm safe in that regard, I'm just a spectator. I guess the seven days ahead of us are a good test of professionalism for the contestants. It may be unwise to read any threads where items are being discussed for the reasons you mentioned. On the other hand, those who make it to round 2 will have to endure criticism, you'll have to grow a thick skin sooner or later.

I can take it. :)

I'm just saying that it will hurt a little, and I don't enjoy making other people feel bad. I'm hoping the criticism will be constructive (I know, wishful thinking) and people can learn from it. But I know that there are enough people out there who just don't care that will shred an item for fun to make themselves feel superior. I'm encouraging people to try and be sympathetic.

And brutally honest at the same time. I know that sounds like a contradiction, but it isn't. Good, constructive criticism pulls no punches. If people are to learn, they can't have the blow softened.

There is a tendancy in some to make it personal—"I can't believe how stupid this peron was to use rule X when rule Y was should have been used. What an idiot! LOL"

Keep it about the flaws in the item, and I'm good. Should someone come at me when I can't defend myself? I call coward.

So I hope you can see where I'm coming from, KatDangerous. I wouldn't want to be in that situation so even when I know I'm out of the competition, I'm going to tred carefully on what I say. I will definitely be posting my opinion on items, and if the creators of said items can't take it then they shouldn't be in the competition—or freelancers for that matter.

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Hey, congrats mamaursula! You made Marathon! Find the item in question yet?

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mamaursula wrote:


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Congrats!

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Feros wrote:
Hey, congrats mamaursula! You made Marathon! Find the item in question yet?

No, I did not find the elusive item, so whatever you all came up with for your "total number of items" in the stats thread, add 1 :-)

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And that's a wrap!

(And I end with two meh items. Sigh)

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Feros wrote:
KatDangerous wrote:
Oh I think I'm safe in that regard, I'm just a spectator. I guess the seven days ahead of us are a good test of professionalism for the contestants. It may be unwise to read any threads where items are being discussed for the reasons you mentioned. On the other hand, those who make it to round 2 will have to endure criticism, you'll have to grow a thick skin sooner or later.

I can take it. :)

I'm just saying that it will hurt a little, and I don't enjoy making other people feel bad. I'm hoping the criticism will be constructive (I know, wishful thinking) and people can learn from it. But I know that there are enough people out there who just don't care that will shred an item for fun to make themselves feel superior. I'm encouraging people to try and be sympathetic.

And brutally honest at the same time. I know that sounds like a contradiction, but it isn't. Good, constructive criticism pulls no punches. If people are to learn, they can't have the blow softened.

There is a tendancy in some to make it personal—"I can't believe how stupid this peron was to use rule X when rule Y was should have been used. What an idiot! LOL"

Keep it about the flaws in the item, and I'm good. Should someone come at me when I can't defend myself? I call coward.

So I hope you can see where I'm coming from, KatDangerous. I wouldn't want to be in that situation so even when I know I'm out of the competition, I'm going to tred carefully on what I say. I will definitely be posting my opinion on items, and if the creators of said items can't take it then they shouldn't be in the competition—or freelancers for that matter.

Well, I certainly hope the comments will be generally about the merits of the items at this stage. Once the top 32 have been announced and anonymity is no longer an issue, people can submit their items for public review and those who want brutally honest comments will get them.


That's it, people. Nothing more to see here. Move along, now, move along.

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Shadowborn wrote:
That's it, people. Nothing more to see here. Move along, now, move along.

What are you talking about? We still have the seven day countdown to the Top 32 annoucement!

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Negative 32!

I'm still a Star Voter. Oh well. :p


Feros wrote:
Shadowborn wrote:
That's it, people. Nothing more to see here. Move along, now, move along.
What are you talking about? We still have the seven day countdown to the Top 32 annoucement!

Well, sure, if you want to take down all the voting countdown decorations and put up the "one week until the Top 32 announcement" decorations. I'd just bug out and make a whole new thread. But if recycling is your thing, then sure, go ahead.

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Shadowborn wrote:
Well, sure, if you want to take down all the voting countdown decorations and put up the "one week until the Top 32 announcement" decorations. I'd just bug out and make a whole new thread. But if recycling is your thing, then sure, go ahead.

Excellent point! So without further ado...

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