I was looking at the Soundstriker Bard and noticed neither of the abilities say Lingering Performance can't be used on them.
I believe this mean that, at 6th level and over 3 rounds, a Soundstriker can make 18 attacks for the cost of 3 stadard actions and 1 round of performance. Am I missing something, or is it as cool as it seems?
They don't cause or create a Bonus or Penalty.
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Crud, I was really hoping Weird Words and Lingering Performance could work. :(
Nope. But most other performances still benefit from the feat.
And do you really need Lingering Performance to get massive damage from the Archetype?
Sonic Bull Whip... Priceless...
But does the ability require a Touch Attack? I honestly can't remember and can't get the d20pfsrd to come up...
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Here you go:
Conductive
Price +1 bonus
Aura moderate necromancy; CL 8th; Weight —
DESCRIPTION
A conductive weapon is able to channel the energy of a spell-like or supernatural ability that relies on a melee or ranged touch attack to hit its target (such as from a cleric's domain granted power, sorcerer's bloodline power, oracle's mystery revelation, or wizard's arcane school power). When the wielder makes a successful attack of the appropriate type, he may choose to expend two uses of his magical ability to channel it through the weapon to the struck opponent, which suffers the effects of both the weapon attack and the special ability. (If the wielder has unlimited uses of a special ability, she may channel through the weapon every round.) For example, a paladin who strikes an undead opponent with her conductive greatsword can expend two uses of her lay on hands ability (a supernatural melee touch attack) to deal both greatsword damage and damage from one use of lay on hands. This weapon special ability can only be used once per round, and only works with magical abilities of the same type as the weapon (melee or ranged).
CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS
Craft Magic Arms and Armor, spectral hand; Cost +1 bonus
I was referring to the Bard Feature...
I was referring to the Bard Feature...Wordstrike does not, Weird Words does.
Ok then... Yikes...
So 2 Bardic rounds to deal Whip Damage or inflict the Net penalties on your target while dealing Weird Words... Yikes...
It would be 2 Performance Rounds. As it takes 1 Round to launch the full attacks.
With.
If you are looking at creating a blaster bard, since it has not been brought up I would point you to the magician. You get to pick several spells from other arcane spell lists and could choose blasting spells. Also, later, you can use your own CHA for the DCs on wands and use your own caster level for it.
You could thus buy (or even create with according spellcraft checks) wands of fireball, dragon breath, scorching ray etc.... :-)
I had thought of the Magician Bard before, but not Conductive... that bears a bit more looking into. :)
Weird words wouldn't work with a whip or net which have been mentioned before, though. It would have to be a bow or such (last sentence states it must be the same "type" of weapon - ranged or melee)...
Just be sure not to overlook this... :-)
It will work with a Net, or Firearm.
A Firearm with the Scatter property will allow you to effect several opponents.
Net: you are right. I looked up the wrong "net" ;-P
Would there be another bonus of using that conductive property in the beside adding to damage on a successful hit?
The ranged touch attacks cause much more damage per round when you level up...
A Net would be brutal as you debuff your enemy while dealing damage.
A Blunderbuss or Shotgun would be devestating.
But you don't really gain much from it.
What about Action Economy?
Weird Words requires a standard action. Making one attack requires a standard action. A Conductive weapon lets you take two standard actions worth of actions with just one.
Sorry really messed up what I meant was you don't really gain as much from it as people think.
A Boomstick would be devastating. But Conductive only applies on one of the Attacks so One hit Conductive the rest will be normal.
Actually, what is the action to use the Conductive weapon property? If it's a free action like it seems to be(to me anyway), then you could use on every hit. Gets pretty draining on the ability though...
Conductive can only be used once per round.
Of course I miss the last sentence... Never mind! :)
Just Remember Vital Strike and such can't increase the Weird Word damage.
Critical Might. Big Might though.
Does the Effect state it has a Critical Range?
Unless there is a general rule I am forgetting...
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Several things -
1) Since the conductive weapon is only once per round, wouldn't that limit it to a single 1d8 attack on a single target using the conductive weapon in question, as each "word" is a separate single attack with a separate ranged touch attack roll?
2) Also - "start a performance as a standard action". Not continue or maintain, but simply "start". This language alone suggests to me this is not an intended application of Weird Words.
3) Also, very important - "This performance can't be performed faster than a standard action."
Spells all have 20 x2.
It isn't a Spell though. It doesn't even mimic a Spell.
Anything that requires an attack roll can crit, if no crit is listed, the crit is 20x2.
So since wierd words requires a ranged touch attack, it can crit. Since no crit is listed, it's 20x2.
Where is that? I vaguely remember reading that but can't remember or find it. I do remember Improvised Weapons covering it.
Several things -
1) Since the conductive weapon is only once per round, wouldn't that limit it to a single 1d8 attack on a single target using the conductive weapon in question, as each "word" is a separate single attack with a separate ranged touch attack roll?
Conductive may be for just one attack, but you still get the full use of Weird Words, since all the attacks go through the weapon.
Add a splash of barbarian and with the raging finish feat grants all damage diceas max damage and since weird words are damage dice...
I'm not entirely sure it works and I'm tired. Just throwing it out so others can check the validity. Also look up lances and dealing triple damage if that would stack with the conductive property.
Conductive may be for just one attack, but you still get the full use of Weird Words, since all the attacks go through the weapon.Several things -
1) Since the conductive weapon is only once per round, wouldn't that limit it to a single 1d8 attack on a single target using the conductive weapon in question, as each "word" is a separate single attack with a separate ranged touch attack roll?
Conductive channels a single strike during the attacks, not the full usage of the ability.