So im about to buy my first ever masterwork weapon for my dwarf barbarian.
Im trying to decide of a weapon. I can use and urgosh as a martial weapon so that is a plus.
But a greataxe rolls a d12 while an urgosh rolls a D8 for the axe, the spear being d6.
I'm planning on making it cold iron. gold isn't much of an option though so i can afford the 700 for the Urgosh, but the great axe would do more damage.
If this helps im a lvl 2(about to hit 3 this week) with 16 strengh.
well it's simple. do you plan on being a two weapon type of barbarian? if so get an urgosh. if not then get a greataxe.
or better yet a dwarven longhammer if you like reach weapons.
As of right now i can only get things from the CRB(someday i hope to have all the Hardback books, but as of now that is a pipe dream) And no i do not plan of being a Two weapon barbarian. And Masterwork doesnt concern me, I played up in society recently and got alot of gold.
Ok. Thank you.
for pathfinder society, i would HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY suggest getting an adamantine greataxe, instead of cold iron.
the ability to cut your way through a stone wall as if you're wielding a greataxe sized lightsaber, is awesome :)
it would be the best 3020 gold you ever spend
(and remember since it is considered masterwork you still get a +1 to hit with it)
Dwarven Longhammer(or Longaxe), and a Dwarven Boulder Helmet.
well, he said he is limited to CRB. i would prefer those too, if not.
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As of right now i can only get things from the CRB(someday i hope to have all the Hardback books, but as of now that is a pipe dream) And no i do not plan of being a Two weapon barbarian. And Masterwork doesnt concern me, I played up in society recently and got alot of gold.
Are limited due to lack of books, or houserules?
LAck of books. I just started 3 weeks ago. But I did some calculations, If i save up the vouchers i get(you pay to get in at my store but get 5$ in credit back)
I can get one book a month.
I would suggest neither. Go with the dwarven waraxe, the axe version of a bastard sword. If wielded in 2 hands, it averages only 1 point of damage less then the greataxe, but you can still wield it in one hand if needed.
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LAck of books. I just started 3 weeks ago. But I did some calculations, If i save up the vouchers i get(you pay to get in at my store but get 5$ in credit back)
I can get one book a month.
You know you can get all the info you need off the SRD.
Use all the material now, and if you wish, get the books later.
There are also PDFs of the books available that are cheaper than hardbacks.
I can wield Large sized weapons?
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At a -2 penalty, yes.
You're better off with a normal Greataxe, honestly, because the to-hit is way more important than the extra damage dice.
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A Bastard Sword and a Dwarven Waraxe are almost exactly the same in the long run (19-20/x2 and 20/x3 are effectively equal), and you don't have to burn a feat on the Waraxe to use it as a Dwarf.
I can wield Large sized weapons?
In this case, yes.
When wielding a larger weapon, the effort it takes to wield it increases by one step per size difference. A light weapon becomes a one handed weapon, a one handed weapon becomes a 2 handed weapon, and a 2 handed weapon becomes too large to wield.
For a dwarf, a dwarven waraxe is a one-handed martial weapon. So a Large dwarven waraxe is a two handed martial weapon for a dwarf. You couldn't wield a Large greataxe, though. A medium sized greataxe is already a two handed weapon for a medium creature, so a Large greataxe would be impossible to wield as a medium creature.
(For non-dwarves, the waraxe is a 2 handed martial weapon, or a one handed exotic weapon. A Large waraxe would therefore be too large for a medium creature to use as a martial weapon, but would be a two handed exotic weapon.)
As a medium creature, you could potentially wield a Huge sized weapon, if it was a light weapon. Say, a Huge sized handaxe. It would do 2d6 damage and require 2 hands, so you would be better off with a medium greataxe, because of the -4 attack penalty you would take (for wielding a weapon 2 size categories larger then you.)
Maybe once i get a high base attack bonus i will try the oversized weapon.
Thank you for the help, for now I got my Master work Great axe made of cold iron.
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(For non-dwarves, the waraxe is a 2 handed martial weapon, or a one handed exotic weapon. A Large waraxe would therefore be too large for a medium creature to use as a martial weapon, but would be a two handed exotic weapon.)
A common misconception.
In RAW, what a weapon is (light, one-handed, two-handed) is a separate concept to how a weapon is used.
A one-handed weapon used in two hands remains a one-handed weapon. The rules even account for this concept:-
If a one-handed weapon is wielded with two hands during melee combat, add 1-1/2 times the character's Strength bonus to damage rolls.
The proficiency a user may or may not have, in no way changes what a weapon actually is. The dwarven waraxe (and the bastard sword) is a one-handed weapon, wether you have the EWP or not. A large waraxe is a two-handed weapon for a medium creature, whether you have the EWP or not.
The special ability of the waraxe means that you don't need the EWP to be proficient in it's use (just martial weapon proficiency) if:-
• you are a dwarf
OR
• you use it in two hands
This special ability of the waraxe doesn't go away if the weapon is large, nor does it cease to be relevant.
The common misconception is that the waraxe, and the bastard sword, actually are two-handed weapons if you don't have EWP, but are one-handed weapons with EWP. Common or not, it is simply untrue.
So it is still a 1 handed weapon, but functions as a Two handed?
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So it is still a 1 handed weapon, but functions as a Two handed?
A large dwarven waraxe is a large, one-handed exotic weapon, and its hit points, weight, damage and cost are constant no matter the size or proficiencies of the wielder.
A medium creature treats it as a two-handed weapon, a large creature treats it as a one-handed weapon, and a huge creature treats it as a light weapon, for the purposes of the hands required to attack with it and calculating the damage bonus from strength.
A medium or huge creature would take a -2 attack penalty for it being of an inappropriate size. Creatures smaller than medium and larger than huge are unable to wield it at all.
Anyone with martial weapon proficiency capable of using it is proficient with it if they use it in two hands. Anyone using it in one hand will take a -4 non-proficiency attack penalty unless they have Exotic Weapon Proficiency (dwarven waraxe).
There are some special abilities that may alter one or more of these things, but I won't confuse the issue in this post.