My Society Conjurer


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Scarab Sages

So after not playing my conjurer for 6 months, and learning alot more about pathfinder in general, I went back and edited him. It turns out that I have a bunch of money to spend, and I really need an idea of where to spend it because I plan on playing him this week. A few details on what he has are as follows:

9th level wizard, with a bunch of spells what I have bought/ scored from fellow mages over time. What are key spells that I may need?

He currently has a meta magic rod (lesser empower), +2 cloak of resistance, +1 protection ring, 4 pearls of power (level 1, and a headband of intellect +4, plus various minor wands.

I have about 25k in gold to spend. I hd my eye on the staff of fire for under 19k...what do you guys think?

Dark Archive

Staff of Cackling Wrath is very good


do you have a head band of int +4 yet?

Sczarni

Todd Morgan wrote:
Staff of Cackling Wrath is very good

I believe this staff is quite a bit more than what the character has to spend. Staff of Fire is a good offensive low cost staff.

Dark Archive

Staff of Cackling Wrath: 23,600 according to the PRD

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Did I read correctly that you went back and edited your 9th level PC?


Todd Morgan wrote:
Staff of Cackling Wrath: 23,600 according to the PRD

Unfortunately, staves from the APG are no longer legal purchases for PFS. Ones bought before season 4 are grandfathered in though.


Jiggy wrote:
Did I read correctly that you went back and edited your 9th level PC?

I'm reading the same thing you are ......

Scarab Sages

Yes I edited him. It was nessecary. The last 2 months that I played him were sporadic, and then it has been 6 months since. Tunrs out he has a ton of cash and few good items. Plus since then it sunk in to actually use the chronicle sheets to keep track of money (which helps lot). Dont hate.


Indivar wrote:
Yes I edited him. It was nessecary. The last 2 months that I played him were sporadic, and then it has been 6 months since. Tunrs out he has a ton of cash and few good items. Plus since then it sunk in to actually use the chronicle sheets to keep track of money (which helps lot). Dont hate.

Unfortunately, despite it being necessary or not, the rules for society are fairly clear

you can rebuild before you play a scenario at level 2
you can rebuilt if given permission due to a change in the rules -- i.e. master summoner being banned gave those people with master summoner characters the right to rebuilt their character due to a retroactive banning of the master summoner archetype ...

You cannot, unfortunately, rebuild because you don't like the character at level 9.

it's not that we're "hateing" we're pointing out a violation of the rules.

The Exchange

do you perhaps mean audited? edit implies that you changed things. This isn't a legal option. Auditing the history and discovering errors would be legal however.

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

What exactly do you mean by "necessary"? Did a rule change in the interim that made him no longer legal?


I'm reading edited as "put all my chronicle sheets in order and made the totals add-up properly"...


Funky Badger wrote:

I'm reading edited as "put all my chronicle sheets in order and made the totals add-up properly"...

that would be an audit ... editing implies making changes ....

The Exchange

Hey, that's what i said :D I'm currently assuming it's just a linguistic error, but we should clarify!


Benrislove wrote:
Hey, that's what i said :D I'm currently assuming it's just a linguistic error, but we should clarify!

agreed .... but still


Purple Fluffy CatBunnyGnome wrote:
Funky Badger wrote:

I'm reading edited as "put all my chronicle sheets in order and made the totals add-up properly"...

that would be an audit ... editing implies making changes ....

So... he may not be cheating, but he's certainly using ambigous langauage.

Good work, Batman!

KAPOW!

Liberty's Edge

depending on how much gold, you could get that ring you want as your bonded item. would need the fame as well. love the ring of blink, course probably dont have the fame for it yet.


Funky Badger wrote:
Purple Fluffy CatBunnyGnome wrote:
Funky Badger wrote:

I'm reading edited as "put all my chronicle sheets in order and made the totals add-up properly"...

that would be an audit ... editing implies making changes ....

So... he may not be cheating, but he's certainly using ambigous langauage.

Good work, Batman!

KAPOW!

snarky much?

Liberty's Edge

oh, read it as audited

Scarab Sages

Slow down folks...let me shed some light. I didnt change anything. Thats illegal past 1st level. I went over all of the chronicle sheets and found money that I did not know I had, thus have some to spend. All other expense have been accounted for.

Also, if it matters, his bonded item is an amulet.

I am torn over getting the staff wondering if I need to focus on defensive stuff maybe? I mean he has only his spells for offense and needs to bring something to the table other than casting haste on the fighters and summoning stuff thats useful about 3-4 times a day.

Grand Lodge

Edit is not an incorrect word choice. Edit is to make changes. You can edit a character without violating the rules.

You can sell items and buy other items. You can change Factions. You can even change your alignment. Those are changes. Those are edits to the character.

Let's not jump all over the guy for using an acceptable word.

Liberty's Edge

This thread is a poster child for the idea that people tend to see the worst motivation in others and to expect them to see the best motivation in ourselves. :)

Unfortunately, I don't have much in the way to contribute to OP's original question. :(


Don Walker wrote:

Edit is not an incorrect word choice. Edit is to make changes. You can edit a character without violating the rules.

You can sell items and buy other items. You can change Factions. You can even change your alignment. Those are changes. Those are edits to the character.

Let's not jump all over the guy for using an acceptable word.

My response was based on the fact that he said he edited the character ... not the chronicles ... I was pointing out to him that that wasn't within in the rules -- as he may not have been aware...

I took what he said at face valule and didn't read anything into it

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Hey, I was just asking. :)

The Exchange

well not that whole business is cleared up; back to the thread.

Belt of constitution (or physical might for con+dex) is always an excellent option, because living is sweet as is going first.

upgrading your cloak to +3 or +4 is also worth looking at, though not all that exciting.

If you focus on summoning Ring of invisibility is incredibly strong, summoning doesn't make you visable, same goes for non-attack oriented spells like walls and buffs.

eventually saving up for a ring of free movement is also excellent because getting grappled sucks.

Oh and my new favorite thing. a potion of Gaseous Form TAKE THAT BLACK TENTACLES :D

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Oil of grease is cheaper.


Get Emergency Forcefield and blow the rest on Pearls of Power.

The Exchange

Jiggy wrote:
Oil of grease is cheaper.

it is cheaper, however +10 isn't always enough for a str 7 wizard :D If you're a combatant sure, grease is plenty :D


Jiggy wrote:
Oil of grease is cheaper.

And not guaranteed.

Silver Crusade

Sorry, I forgot that some casters are flimsy little wizard types instead of big strong clerics like me. ;)

Silver Crusade

Am I the only one who things that the terminology: "Oil of Grease" is awfully confusing?

:S

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

No, you're not. :)


First pay attention to what your total FAME is (i.e. all the PA you have earned over the course of the career - spending PA does not reduce your FAME) as this determines what you can purchase beyond items on chronicle sheets.

Second - go over those Chronicle sheets - are there any unique items on those sheets you want to buy? (wands of either higher level than minimum or which are partially depleted can be great purchases)

Do any of your Chronicle sheets have boons you haven't yet used especially any that allow you unique opportunities to spend money? or get items for a discount? If so take full advantage of these as well.

Finally while it isn't spending gold have you look at the prestige awards for your faction? Many factions especially as you get to higher levels have prestige awards that may save you a lot of money and/or fit your unique flavor of your character. Keep enough PA "bankded" to get raised & restored... but then consider other opportunities.

Afte all that I would look at:

Basics I would consider getting:

- boost your ring of protection higher
- boost your cloak of resistance to +3 or even +4 if you can afford it
- add a physical stat boosting item - at least +2 or possibly +4. CON is always a great choice for a wizard but DEX might be good if you are a ray specialist and STR is worth considering if encumbrance or physical skill checks have been a major issue. Also as you audit did you handle the SKILLs from your headband of INT correctly (i.e. for a +4 headband your item has TWO associated skills in which it grants FULL ranks - note that it does not stack with skill ranks you have already spent so it is usually best to select two skills you haven't yet put ranks into)
- a handy haversack (cheap, removes much of the concerns about weight and makes it a bit easier to get items when you need them fast) - if you have a lot of wands an efficient quiver may also be worthwhile and/or the non-magical wrist sheaths to have two wands (or one wand and one rod) at the ready at all times

- wayfinder and a resonant Ioun stone - tons of great combinations worth exploring but this can get you a lot of features. Cracked Ioun Stones are also very inexpensive ways to boost a few things (initiative, certain skills etc).

Since you have an arcane bonded Amulet have you looked into options to enchant it? You get a discount on your first enchantment of a bonded item (and it is one of the few PFS legal ways to use a crafting feat which you get for free for your arcane bonded item). This is slightly risky since if the item is destroyed you've wasted money but it is worth considering. There are some school specific magic items that might be worth exploring.

Staves are nice but there are also other items for a wizard in particular to consider:

- rings of spell storing are very flexible (if expensive)
- other metamagic rods can add flexibility (rod of quicken even lessor can be amazing)

PFS wizards lose scribe scroll but it is still worth buying a few utility scrolls since they are quite cheap (especially for low level spells) and of course having some healing is worth while. Potions of Lesser Restoration while pricier can also be greatly useful (and/or having a spare 2nd level Pearl of Power to loan to a friendly Cleric). Wands of spells not on the wizard spell list can also be useful to own (Cure Light Wounds is the big one but if you have a chance to purchase a partially charged wand of lesser restoration it is likely worth the investment)

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