Like the title says, what would you say Miracle can do? The people in my gaming group seem to think you can do just about anything in the world with it. My specific example is one wants to use miracle to change his race to a race of his choosing. Can they do that? I'd like to know, because to me, it seems to be more limited than they think, but I'm honestly not sure.
Thanks!
You could use a miracle to change your race, theoretically, though it might require the material component. The thing that makes this spell a bit special though is that really the caster isn't the one doing all the work like with a normal spell. He is really requesting a miracle from his god through direct divine intervention. The downside to this is that the caster's god then needs to agree with him that it is worth doing, so the DM can always just say that the cleric's deity denies the request and shut down the spell.
Think about it a bit like this: Wish is the most powerful form of mortal magic in existence, period. No mortal creature can produce a more powerful effect on their own. Wish can alter reality directly according to the casters whims. Miracle is still one step higher on the power scale than Wish since it is no longer truly mortal magic.
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Like the title says, what would you say Miracle can do? The people in my gaming group seem to think you can do just about anything in the world with it. My specific example is one wants to use miracle to change his race to a race of his choosing. Can they do that? I'd like to know, because to me, it seems to be more limited than they think, but I'm honestly not sure.
Thanks!
Miracle is like Wish in that in can do pretty much anything you want. Unlike Wish, if you ask for too much your deity says "no" instead of screwing you over.
Also unlike Wish, you can imitate a very large number of spells without the 25k gp material component.
Miracle can, without the material component, do the following things:
Duplicate any cleric spell of 8th level or lower.
Duplicate any other spell of 7th level or lower.
Undo the harmful effects of certain spells, such as feeblemind or insanity.
Have any effect whose power level is in line with the above effects.
Emphasis mine. The emphasized line means that as long as the effect is in line with a 7th level or lower spell (or 8th level cleric spell), they can do it.
Reincarnate is a 4th level spell that revives you and changes you to a different type of creature. I would say that a 7th level spell that simply changes you to another humanoid of comparable power (but lets you choose which one) would be a fair spell. If he wanted to become something more powerful then he'd be competing with short-duration spells, like Giant Form I (which is 7th level).
TL;DR - It doesn't explicitly state that effect, but it seems reasonable as long as the new race is of similar power to their original. In other words "I want to be an elf" would be fine, but "I want to be a dragon" would not be.
EDIT: The theoretical spell that permanently changes your race would likely have an expensive material component, somewhere between 1000 and 10000 gold. This means that the Miracle will also require that component.
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Like Wish Miracle is highly subject to DM oversight. Personally I'd consider the source of the "granting" i.e. the deity being called upon by the divine caster in question as to just how much I'd let them get away with so to speak. In most campaigns I'd say it is safe to say a Deity is more than powerful enough to make said Miracle occur (a change of race). The question though is more why would it? Can your caster give you (as the deity) a good reason as to why they desire such an effect and does it benefit the deity and their faithful?
The deity only denies requests if it is against their nature or alignment (after all, the cleric is paying tribute for the request via the material component).
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I totally agree. Certainly any of the bullet points would fall under the category of basically agreed to in advance (see my edit above). I wouldn't, for example, even consider allowing a race change if the deity in question were a specific racial deity. A deity of Elves is very unlikely without an extremely good in game reason to allow a change to say 1/2 Orc.Like Wish Miracle is highly subject to DM oversight. Personally I'd consider the source of the "granting" i.e. the deity being called upon by the divine caster in question as to just how much I'd let them get away with so to speak. In most campaigns I'd say it is safe to say a Deity is more than powerful enough to make said Miracle occur (a change of race). The question though is more why would it? Can your caster give you (as the deity) a good reason as to why they desire such an effect and does it benefit the deity and their faithful?The deity only denies requests if it is against their nature or alignment (after all, the cleric is paying tribute for the request via the material component).
Conversely, such a deity would probably be very happy to see you using the spell to become a full-blood if you were a half-elf.
Thanks for the advice everyone! He had asked to be an Aasimar, which I allowed, and he was hoping to use the power to become a half-celestial. I wanted to see if he would be able to do so. He says its requesting the ability to "unlock his celestial heritage," but since he is an Oracle, I had the words "please sir, may I have some more?" going through my head when he said it.
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Thanks for the advice everyone! He had asked to be an Aasimar, which I allowed, and he was hoping to use the power to become a half-celestial. I wanted to see if he would be able to do so. He says its requesting the ability to "unlock his celestial heritage," but since he is an Oracle, I had the words "please sir, may I have some more?" going through my head when he said it.
Becoming an Aasimar seems fair.
As to the second one, let him cast a Miracle requesting that and instead of making him Half-Celestial have him have a vision of some kind that tells him how he can become one. In other words: He's basically HANDING you a plot hook.