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Just how high can you get your diplomacy?
I ask because I played PFS alongside a summoner not too long ago who had, if memory serves, a +26 to diplomacy at 5th level. He had no spells active at the time, and his eidolon was not the one making the check.
Things I know:
5th level
Gnome
Pure summoner (no multiclassing)
20 CHA
No active spells
So, can you reproduce it? I'm really curious how to get such a high diplomacy modifier. First person to post a PFS-legal method of getting +26 diplomacy within the above constraints wins an internet cookie!
5 ranks
3 class skill
5 ability mod
3 skill focus (diplomacy)
1 gift of tongues (gnome alt trait)
1 ease of faith trait
3 circlet of persuasion
2 persuasive feat
=
23
Just 3 away! damn I wanted that cookie!
5 ranks
3 class skill
5 ability mod
3 skill focus (diplomacy)
1 gift of tongues (gnome alt trait)
1 ease of faith trait
3 circlet of persuasion
2 persuasive feat
=
23Just 3 away! damn I wanted that cookie!
2 probably came from a masterwork diplomacy tool, which as of UE cannot be universal and must be purchased for a particular circumstance. If they had the Sarenrae trait Illuminator instead of Ease of Faith, that does it.
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5 ranks
3 class skill
5 ability mod
3 skill focus (diplomacy)
1 gift of tongues (gnome alt trait)
1 ease of faith trait
3 circlet of persuasion
2 persuasive feat
PLUS
1 headband (headband slot =/= head slot)
2 Masterwork Tool (Diplomacy for your situation)
5th level? Check
Gnome? Check
Pure summoner? Check
20 CHA? Check
No active spells? Check
I'll split that cookie with you, Ishmell.
Is there a feat that boosts the bonus from the aid another action from +2 to +3? if so, the eidolon could easily get a high enough Diplomacy bonus to make his aid attempts succeed automatically, and a +3 from that aid would make up the last +3.
I'll split that cookie with you, Ishmell.
You have been ninjaed! But yes, with the headband too it could make it +27,
I got it, in PFS its possible to earn fame in your faction. It's also possible to earn 2 fame per scenario, and assuming 3 scenarios per level that could total 30 fame. You get a +1 cumulative bonus to diplomacy for every 10 fame you have in that faction and when the diplomacy check opposes a faction member.
So in conclusion....
5 ranks
3 class skill
5 ability mod
3 skill focus (diplomacy)
1 gift of tongues (gnome alt trait)
1 ease of faith trait
3 circlet of persuasion
2 persuasive feat
3 fame (assuming against faction member)
=
+26 to diplomacy
and boom goes the dynamite
PFS or not...
Traits (2):
Ease of Faith Trait : Makes Diplomacy a class skill (+3), adds a +1 also.
Patient Optimist Trait: +2
Total: +6
Alternate Racial Trait (1):
Gift of Tongues: +1 to Diplomacy
Total: +1
Skill Ranks:
5 ranks in Diplomacy
Total: +5
Attribute Bonus:
+5 CHA bonus
Total: +5
Feats:
Skill Focus: Diplomacy (+3)
Persuasive: +2 to Diplomacy
Voice of the Sibyl: +1 to Diplomacy
Total: +6
Gear:
Circlet of Persuasion: +3 Diplomacy
Total +26 to Diplomacy
Even better, Ease of Faith and Illuminator (unless my memory fails me) are two different types of traits (Faith and Religion.) MORE DIPLOMACY.
Yes, but they both grant trait bonuses, so no dice.
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I ask because I played PFS alongside a summoner not too long ago who had, if memory serves, a +26 to diplomacy at 5th level.Someone needs to do a full audit on "that" person's PC.
I've only seen uproar like this once before in society play.
Who said anything about an "uproar"?
Close as I can get:
20 Chr (+5), Rank 5 (+5), Class Skill (+3), Trait Bonus (+1), Gnome Racial Gift of Tongues (+1), Skill Focus (Dilpomacy)(+3),
Persuasive (+2), Rhetorical Flourish (gives +4 Dilpomacy after a successful Bluff check). That's +24 and, if he had a Circlet of Persuasion, +27.
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The classic-est one of all, of course.
So you mean you counted the modifier for 20 CHA, then used an item to increase his CHA beyond the specified 20? That's what I thought.
NO COOKIE FOR YOU! COME BACK, ONE YEAR!
There's another Faith trait that gives +4 to one check... I think it's Shelynite. So all the above, and swap in that trait.
So uh do I get the cookie or did I mess something up because man that is like the most focused post I will probably ever write unless someone asks me to like apologize to Chris Lambertz for all the terrible posts I write that must be removed.
I'm sorry Chris Lambertz. I'm sorry for my terrible terrible posts that you have to remove.
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The classic-est one of all, of course.So you mean you counted the modifier for 20 CHA, then used an item to increase his CHA beyond the specified 20? That's what I thought.
NO COOKIE FOR YOU! COME BACK, ONE YEAR!
But-- what if it was the first 24 hours?!? Then it was just a temporary bonus, which kind of-- No! His stat is STILL technically 20 if he takes the headband off before Jiggy looks at his sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
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Who said anything about an "uproar"?I ask because I played PFS alongside a summoner not too long ago who had, if memory serves, a +26 to diplomacy at 5th level.Someone needs to do a full audit on "that" person's PC.
I've only seen uproar like this once before in society play.
Not you, as far as I know.
The people who are sick of playing a table where they aren't needed made the uproar.
Man I am starting to think this cookie is a lie.
*yoink*
You will rue the day, Ishmell!
IMMINENT RUEAGE!
Man with a +26 to Diplomacy I can just reason my way to utterly insane piles of cookies.
