Beastmasters and Martial Artists

[Tela]

Curious as to if this loop-hole is possible(aka correct)

Both the Beastmaster and the Martial Artist get the ability Fast Movement ,and both state "However, it does not stack with the identical barbarian ability."

So would it be okay if they stacked with each other? It doesn't say anything about stacking with identical abilities from other classes, just barbarians.

[Umbranus]

Does one of the fast movement abilities state that it works like the barbarian ability.

[Kazaan]

I looked at the Beast Master archetype and I didn't see Fast Movement. I didn't see any other reference to Fast Movement (Ex) aside from the Monk and Barbarian class ability.

[Tela]

Yeah, all three classes describe fast movement the same word for word, except for the class name of course and the mentioning of not stacking with the barbarian ability. Otherwise it does not state flat-out that it functions like the barbarian ability, only that the barbarian ability is identical -- though that might mean "works like" in this case. I tend to either over-think or under-think things so I'm not sure on that.

One of my friends is saying they would not stack, so until this is proven I'll be treating it as such.

The ability description from the martial artist's page: "At 3rd level, a martial artist's land speed becomes faster than the norm for his race by +10 feet. This benefit applies only when he is wearing no armor, light armor, or medium armor, and not carrying a heavy load. Apply this bonus before modifying the martial artist's speed because of any load carried or armor worn. This bonus stacks with any other bonuses to the martial artist's land speed. However, it does not stack with the identical barbarian ability."

[Tela]

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/tripod-machine/martial-ar tist#TOC-Fast-Movement

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/tripod-machine/beastmaste r#TOC-Fast-Movement-Ex-

[Kazaan]

Specify next time that you're talking about third-party content. There is already a Martial Artist Monk archetype and Beastmaster Ranger archetype. This should be in the third-party section, not Rules.

[Tela]

Oh, sorry. First time on forums ^.^;

[Krodjin]

Yeah I had no idea what you were talking about!

[theharlequin]

If you are looking for a raging martial artist, I would recommend mixing two levels of Brutal Pugilist (barbarian) with the Martial Artist (monk). Brutal Pugilist 1st lvl, then once more at 8th level to pick up Reckless Abandon. At Character Level 6 you gain immunity from fatigue, allowing you to rage cycle during combat whenever it is required to buff Strength and Con through the roof.