Agile keen rapier dex build?

[rangerjeff]

I'm sure many parts of this don't make sense, appreciate criticism. PFS build.

at lvl 8, 3 rogue, 5 ftr, Half Elf, with only 25000 gp of 33000 average available spent

STR 10
DEX 20
CON 13 (maybe bump at 12)
INT 13
WIS 12
CHA 12

feats:
Dodge
Improved Init
Piranha Strike
Shield Focus
Skill focus Diplomacy (Half Elf)
Additional Traits
Weapon focus/specialize Rapier
Weapon Finesse

traits:
Anatomist
Elven Reflexes
Freedom Fighter (Andoran)
Patient Optimist (diplomacy seems to be very important in PFS)

equip:
+1 keen agile rapier
+1 darkwood heavy shield
+2 mithral chain shirt

skills:
+9 Acrobatics
+10 Bluff
+10 Climb
+13 Diplomacy (+15 to change attitude and roll 2x)
+5 Disguise
+9 Escape Artist
+5 Intimidate
+5 Knol Dung, Eng, Local
+5 Linguist
+7 Percept
+17 Stealth
+10 Swim

attack:
+13/+8 for 1d6+13, crit 15-20 x2 and +1 to confirm, +1 dam during surprise round, +2d6 sneak

+11 init

26 AC, 20 flat, 16 touch
30 speed
+6 Fort
+9 Reflec
+3 Will

[Rune]

IIRC you can't use Piranha Strike with the rapier. Needs to be a light weapon. Maybe bump Strenght to 13 and get Power Attack?

[rangerjeff]

Rune wrote:

IIRC you can't use Piranha Strike with the rapier. Needs to be a light weapon. Maybe bump Strenght to 13 and get Power Attack?

Hmm... or go kukri and two-weapon instead of shield, though 2 +1 keen agile weapons are beyond the price range of an 8th level character...

but yeah, the point is to avoid pumping any points into STR, though I didn't dump STR to 8 or 7, either, hate to get encumbered or penalize Climb and Swim

[Tels]

Is your character already leveled up to 8th or are you simply planning out to 8th?

[rangerjeff]

Just planning

[rangerjeff]

hmmm... maybe ninja fighter/ranger for two weapon wakazashi...

edit: though there's the elf trait Ancestral Weapon that would give me Wakazashi all by itself... so that and just fighter Agile Keen two weapon perhaps

[Gwen Smith]

I have a fighter/rogue with 2-weapon wakazashi, with Weapon specialization and Improved critical. That way I could spend my money on Agile without worrying about Keen.

[Mergy]

Just go kukri. A feat for one extra damage on average isn't worth it. Or reserve three points for Power Attack; you'll enjoy the extra carrying capacity anyway.

[Krodjin]

Or keep STR at 10 if your set on that. Go Ranger 2 and take Power Attack that way. In fact if you consider all the other benefits of Ranger you may just prefer that over your Fighter levels.

[Tels]

I was wondering why you didn't go Dervish Dance + Scimitar instead. Especially if you take the Crane Style feats to negate one attack each round.

[Mergy]

In fact, get rid of those rogue levels for ranger levels! :D

[TheRonin]

Tels wrote:

I was wondering why you didn't go Dervish Dance + Scimitar instead. Especially if you take the Crane Style feats to negate one attack each round.

Some people want to use a Rapier.

Its a pretty iconic weapon in fantasy all things considered.

[rangerjeff]

Well, if I had thought of it first, I might have gone DD, it's awesome. But now I feel like it would be cheap, and I'm on the side that DD is supposed to be just a very specific flavor build for fanatics of Sarenrae. Which I don't want to be. But I still want to be a Dexy fighter.

Might not be the most DPR/power build, but I'm thankful for the feedback here, and will probably go Elven ranger ninja dual wakazashis with a bucker. Sounds like fun.

[Harrison]

Tels wrote:

I was wondering why you didn't go Dervish Dance + Scimitar instead.

Weapon Finesse doesn't apply to the Scimitar.

[Gwen Smith]

Harrison wrote:

Tels wrote:

I was wondering why you didn't go Dervish Dance + Scimitar instead.

Weapon Finesse doesn't apply to the Scimitar.

It does with the Dervish Dance feat.

[Krodjin]

rangerjeff wrote:

will probably go Elven ranger ninja dual wakazashis with a bucker. Sounds like fun.

Half-Elf has the 2 favoured class option, which is excellent if you are planning on splitting levels (like Ninja 10/Ranger 10). 10 free Hit Points? Yes please!!! For a couple level dip it's not a huge deal though.