Guiding Star Revelation and AoO question


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Hey there, I have a question regarding the Guiding Star Revelation of the Heavens Mystery of the Oracle Class: It states that you need to see the open sky to determine your precise location, but you only need to see the night sky to get the skill bonus.
Does this mean that (e.g.) clouds or trees negate the first part, but not the second part? Do you get the skill bonus even if the sky is completely covered by clouds?

Second question is about AoOs: Do you need to roll once for every opponent, or only once and apply that result to every opponent?

Thanks in advance!


Not sure about your first question but AoO's are rolled per opponent and you only get one AoO per round unless you have the Combat Reflexes feat.


Nachti wrote:
Does this mean that (e.g.) clouds or trees negate the first part, but not the second part? Do you get the skill bonus even if the sky is completely covered by clouds?

Precise Location: see the open sky at night

Cha Mod to Wisdom-based checks: night sky is visible to you

In both cases, if the sky is obscured by clouds or trees or a roof or whatever, you would be unable to see the open sky, and the night sky would not be visible.

Nachti wrote:
Second question is about AoOs: Do you need to roll once for every opponent, or only once and apply that result to every opponent?

Roll what, exactly?

Concentration check for defensive casting? Acrobatics check to move through a threatened square? Attack roll against someone that provokes?


Oh, I'm sorry, I totally brainfarted on the second question. What I meant was: If you try Acrobatics to avoid AoOs, do you roll Acrobatics once against every single threatening opponent or do you roll once and apply that result to every opponents CMD?

Still, thanks for the quick answer ;)


Ah, Ok.

I would think you roll once and compare against all threatening opponent CMD's as you only really make one tumble.

I could be wrong though!


Grick wrote:
Nachti wrote:
Does this mean that (e.g.) clouds or trees negate the first part, but not the second part? Do you get the skill bonus even if the sky is completely covered by clouds?

Precise Location: see the open sky at night

Cha Mod to Wisdom-based checks: night sky is visible to you

In both cases, if the sky is obscured by clouds or trees or a roof or whatever, you would be unable to see the open sky, and the night sky would not be visible.

Thanks, that's how we've been playing it so far. I just reread it and thought it was weird that it uses slightly different wording.

As to the second question: Acrobatics is the word I omitted for some reason.


You make the check once per foe.

FAQ about it here :)


Cheapy wrote:

You make the check once per foe.

FAQ about it here :)

Thank you!

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