Beast Shape: Catoblepas is astounding as it can net you (in order of stat-block appearance):
- darkvision 60 ft.
- low-light vision
- Speed 40
- Swim 20
- 4 attacks (bite, gore, 2 hooves)
- space/reach 15 feet (at least until errata fixes it)
- a poisonous breath weapon that does ongoing CONSTITUTION DAMAGE and requires THREE CONSECUTIVE saves to stop!
- trample
Summon Monster IV: hound achon for tactics and special abilities, lion for pounce, or bison for trample.
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Beast Shape: Catoblepas is astounding as it can net you (in order of stat-block appearance):
- darkvision 60 ft.
- low-light vision
- Speed 40
- Swim 20
- 4 attacks (bite, gore, 2 hooves)
- space/reach 15 feet (at least until errata fixes it)
- a poisonous breath weapon that does ongoing CONSTITUTION DAMAGE and requires THREE CONSECUTIVE saves to stop!
- trampleSummon Monster IV: hound achon for tactics and special abilities, lion for pounce, or bison for trample.
Unfortunately, polymorph emulate beast shape II, so you cannot gain the benefits of Breath Weapon or Trample.
Beast Shape: Catoblepas is astounding as it can net you (in order of stat-block appearance):
- darkvision 60 ft.
- low-light vision
- Speed 40
- Swim 20
- 4 attacks (bite, gore, 2 hooves)
- space/reach 15 feet (at least until errata fixes it)
- a poisonous breath weapon that does ongoing CONSTITUTION DAMAGE and requires THREE CONSECUTIVE saves to stop!
- trampleSummon Monster IV: hound achon for tactics and special abilities, lion for pounce, or bison for trample.
also, unfortunately, druid wild shape specifically says that you can only turn into an animal, plant, or elemental. catoblepas is a magical beast.
oh and i think elamdri meant to say beast shape 3. beast shape 4 lets you get breath weapons, but druid wild shape never acts like beast shape 4, so you can never get them.
Why are you casting polymorph when you could be casting Beats Shape III? Also, who said anything about Wild Shape?
oops my bad, i thought the OP was speaking about druids
Beast Shape III is 5th-level, like Polymorph, only it is strictly more powerful (albeit marginally less versatile).
How is it more powerful?
Bear in mind that I am new.
Thanks again,
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anabolixx@hmail.comPolymorph can shapes more than once, right>
It allows for more powerful forms such as Huge sized creatures with greater reach, senses, speed, attacks and defenses.
It allows for more powerful forms such as Huge sized creatures with greater reach, senses, speed, attacks and defenses.
Do you know of any examples?
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anabolixx@gmail,.
Absolutely anything of the Animal type from Tiny to Huge size or of the Magical Beast type from Small to Medium size.
Lions, tigers, and bears (oh my) as well as dinosaurs make for some good Animal examples.
As for Magical Beasts, you could turn into a basilisk, worg, trollhound, dweomercat, grodair, aranea, blink dog, bunyip, or krenshar just to name a few.
Honestly, I don't know all of them either (particularly the grodair). I pulled them off of internet. All I know about all of them is that they ARE magical beasts of the appropriate sizes and that they were all published somewhere in a Paizo Pathfinder product (could be one of the three Bestiaries, or in a module or supplement book).
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Mondreyes:
The reason that Beast Shape III is better than Polymorph is because Beast Shape III has more narrow use, while Polymorph has a broader use.
Polymorph explicitly lets you duplicate the effect of either Beast Shape II or Elemental Body I
Therefore, if you are turning into an animal, Beast Shape III is better than Polymorph, because Polymorph only lets you use Beast Shape II.
While this is a guide for Druids wildshaping, the same principles apply to Beast Shape, so I would read this
The short of it is, if you are looking for a Huge creature to transform into using Beast Shape III, Allosaurus from Beastiary 2 is the way to go. It's mechanically the same as a Dire Tiger, just bigger and meaner.
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Elamdri - do you have links for the other parts of that guide you linked to? Seems really comprehensive but it is broken up into multiple parts - I'd like to see the other parts... [/QUOTE
The dire tiger seems much stronger.
Dire Tiger is better than Allosaurus for indoor encounters. But for outdoors, Allosaurus is better.
That's because both have Bite and 2 claws, pounce and rake and grab.
However, because Allosaurus is Huge, it has more strength and more NA, and more reach.