Headband of Wisdom and spells


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I was wondering if i had a 17th level cleric that had a 16 wisdom and a headband of wisdom that gave +3 wisdom would they be able to cast 9th level spells?

Silver Crusade

After an hour, yes. Remember that there is no such thing as a +3 headband, only +4


Elamdri wrote:
After an hour, yes. Remember that there is no such thing as a +3 headband, only +4

Thanks. so can you prepare 9th level spells as well after an hour of equipping it?

Silver Crusade

Yep!

Likewise, lets say you have an 11 Strength. If you equip a +2 belt of strength, after an hour you can qualify for the Power Attack feat because you will have a permanent 13 strength as long as you wear the belt.


Out of curiosity: Where did you get that '1 hour' stuff from?

IIRC, PRD claims it takes 1 day (aka 24 hours) to make the bonus count as permanent, thus enabling feats, spells and the like...

Silver Crusade

Oh crap! Good catch! It's early and I'm tired (that's my excuse, Hahaha).

Yes, 1 day is what I meant to say.


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

If such a thing (a +3 headband of wisdom, by RAW they come in +2, +4 or +6 varieties) exists, and you wear it longer than 24 hours such that it becomes a "permanent" bonus, then you would meet the casting stat requirement for a 9th level spell. A 17th level cleric gets 1 ninth level slot and 1 ninth level domain spell per the cleric table.

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Permanent Bonuses: Ability bonuses with a duration greater than 1 day actually increase the relevant ability score after 24 hours. Modify all skills and statistics related to that ability. This might cause you to gain skill points, hit points, and other bonuses. These bonuses should be noted separately in case they are removed.


Slim forgot to mention that the bonus is permanent ONLY so long as you wear the headband. If it gets taken off, lost, stolen, or destroyed, you immediately revert back to original Score.


Needless to say, that means you would lose the ability to cast those spells. Any character so reliant on such an item needs a backup. Prepare Owl's Wisdom daily!


Kimera757 wrote:
Needless to say, that means you would lose the ability to cast those spells. Any character so reliant on such an item needs a backup. Prepare Owl's Wisdom daily!

Since Owl's Wisdom does not grant a permanent ability bonus, it would not allow you to cast extra spells, either higher level ones, or additional lower level ones. The text for the spell even points this out:

"Clerics, druids, and rangers (and other Wisdom-based spellcasters) who receive owl's wisdom do not gain any additional bonus spells for the increased Wisdom, but the save DCs for their spells increase."

Even if it did allow you to cast higher level spells, you would likely not have time to prepare them; Owl's Wisdom lasts for minute/level, whereas spells typically take at least 15 minutes to prepare individually (or 1 hour to prepare all of your daily spells.)

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