At will invisibility and attacking *possible spoilers*

[Erich_Jager]

Last night I was running my group through one of the dungeons from Rise of the Runelords and came across an interesting situation.

They wound up fighting a Quasit and she was making full use of her at will invisibility power.
The question came up as to whether or not she could move, attack and go invisible or attack, move and then go invisible.

I wasn't quite sure how to judge this since the invisibility is a at will ability.
In the end I erred on the side of the players and stated that she could not attack and then go invisible.

Does anyone happen to know what, if anything, the rules say on this?

Thanks

-Erich

[Cheapy]

At-Will simply means no limits on number of uses. It does not mean "there's no action cost of it" so it still has the action necessary to attack.

So no, she couldn't use the invisibility (standard action), move (move action), and attack (at least a standard action).

[Gignere]

Erich_Jager wrote:

Last night I was running my group through one of the dungeons from Rise of the Runelords and came across an interesting situation.

They wound up fighting a Quasit and she was making full use of her at will invisibility power.
The question came up as to whether or not she could move, attack and go invisible or attack, move and then go invisible.

I wasn't quite sure how to judge this since the invisibility is a at will ability.
In the end I erred on the side of the players and stated that she could not attack and then go invisible.

Does anyone happen to know what, if anything, the rules say on this?

Thanks

-Erich

All SLA requires a standard action to use. So you can move go invis, and that is it. You can't attack and go invisible.

[MaxAstro]

Even at-will invisibility takes a standard action to activate.

The only way she could attack and go invisible in the same round is if she had the feat Quicken Spell-Like Ability so that she could go invisible as a swift action, but even then the feat limits it to 3 times a day, I believe.

EDIT: Darn ninjas. :p

[Gignere]

MaxAstro wrote:

Even at-will invisibility takes a standard action to activate.

The only way she could attack and go invisible in the same round is if she had the feat Quicken Spell-Like Ability so that she could go invisible as a swift action, but even then the feat limits it to 3 times a day, I believe.

EDIT: Darn ninjas. :p

Nope Quicken SLA requires a caster level or equivalent of caster level 10 to get. But there are no limitations to how many times you can quicken.

[Cheapy]

No limitations other than 3 times per day :)

[Erich_Jager]

OK, Looks like I called it right.
Thanks for the responses.

-Erich