A few questions on Clouded Vision, and Items which enhance Senses.


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The Oracle's Clouded Vision curse is detailed as limiting vision to only 30ft (or 60ft later). But there are a few items which seem to enhance various senses, such as a few that give a character Blind-sight.

My questions go something like this: If one gives a "Clouded Vision" Oracle an Item that would enhance a normal character's senses beyond the Oracle's 30 or 60 ft limit on sight, would that actually... "Work"? Or is all their senses capped off at that level, and will never go beyond it?

Of course, I'm specifically talking about a sort of... Home-brew enhanced version of the "Swordmaster's Blindfold" Which normally give about a five foot range of blind-sight to the wearer, but I'm thinking it's not beyond the realm of logic or possibility to push it... a lot further for the sake of a campaign and character Premise. Even if it is a often used one.

...Yes, I'm aware that they can already get blind-sight, It's that I also was thinking of a sort of dual cursed character that used the sight thing as the lesser one...

Anyways, there's also a second question in here somewhere... How much would it cost to bump up the range of the "Swordmaster's Blindfold" anyways? Considering its listed as costing about 80,000 for the 5ft, plus a Locate weakness spell stuck on constant for melee attacks.


Um... should I take the silence as a "maybe it might work, depends on if the GM allows it"?

Because that would be a perfectly viable answer if it were actually voiced... But... you know... taking that for granted would kind of waste the point asking the question...


Well, the GM's consent is always required.
Personally, I'd say any feat, object or spell that would increase the range of vision simply fails on a Clouded Vision-cursed Oracle. It's a Curse after all, and one bestowed by the Gods no less.
Only a God can undo it.


By raw nothing will bypass an oracles curse. The clouded vision oracle doesn't just have his vision fade out at 30' and get fuzzy it hits a wall only the divine can surpass. A GM can change anything for a home game though, but the; intent from the books is clear.


Mojorat wrote:

By raw nothing will bypass an oracles curse. The clouded vision oracle doesn't just have his vision fade out at 30' and get fuzzy it hits a wall only the divine can surpass. A GM can change anything for a home game though, but the; intent from the books is clear.

Much as i wish this was true a lame oracle can take a barbarian level or put on some magical boots to get past his curse with little pain and massive benefits so i don't see why the clouded vision curse should be so difficult to bypass.

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