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I am planning on making a Barbarian then MC to Cleric on lvl 2. I have a couple questions though:

1. Can I Power Attack then get a cleave attack? If so can the Cleave be a Power Attack as well?

2. Can you take an Archtype on Barbarian and an Archtype on a Cleric?

3. Can I have both abilities from my domain listed below being used at the same time:
Ferocious (Strength)
Ferocious Strike (Su): Whenever you make a melee attack, you can designate that attack as a ferocious strike. If the attack hits, it deals additional damage equal to 1/2 your cleric level (minimum +1). You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.

Destruction
Destructive Smite (Su): You gain the destructive smite power: the supernatural ability to make a single melee attack with a morale bonus on damage rolls equal to 1/2 your cleric level (minimum 1). You must declare the destructive smite before making the attack. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.

4. If I take both the domains listed above can I take the Bless spell as it lists domain types that I don't have:
Domain community 1, leadership 1, resolve 1

5. Does my rage rounds go up after each lvl in Cleric, will I get 2 extra rounds at lvl 2?
Rage (Ex)
A barbarian can call upon inner reserves of strength and ferocity, granting her additional combat prowess. Starting at 1st level, a barbarian can rage for a number of rounds per day equal to 4 + her Constitution modifier. At each level after 1st, she can rage for 2 additional rounds.

Thanks for the help!


I think you may be looking for the rules forum.

I flaged it for you.

Dark Archive

1. You have to declare power attack when you wish to start using it, and you have to declare you are cleaving (as its a standard action that replaces a normal attack), you can do both as power attack applies to all attack rolls after its been declared until the start of your next turn. The cleave MUST be a power attack if the first attack is, as power attack isnt a toggle, it persists till the start of your next round (including all attacks, and attacks of opportunity until the start of your next round).

2. Yes

3. Yes both of those would stack Ferocious is untyped and Destruction is a morale bonus, you would need to declare both before rolling the attack (for example if you wanted to use both of those and power attack you would have to tell the GM im using a Ferocious, Destructive Smiting, Power attack and what weapon you are using).

4. The bless spell is part of the standard cleric list, and appears on those 3 domains, the domains it appears on allow you to prepare bless in the domain slot, it doesnt prevent a cleric who isnt in those domains from preparing it in normal slots (domain slots are special slots for Domain only spells that cannot be used for normal cleric spells).

5. No, that ability only gives you rage rounds for each level of Barbarian you take as it references level inside the class features block and not from a feat/special ability area.


Thank you, appreciate the help. Bummer that number of rage rounds don't go up as you level, I was hoping it would as it didn't clearly specify but what you said makes sense.

Say I have 8 Intelligence and the class Cleric says I get skills equal to 2+Int. Does that mean I only get 1 skill point a lvl or is 2 the minimum for this class?

Dark Archive

1 is the minimum (which means if you had a 7 int you would still get 1 skill point per level which can then be modified by favored class and or racial bonuses)


You da man!

Do you think I have enough Wis for being a Cleric with the stats below? This is for taking barbarian first lvl and cleric second:
18 Str
12 Dex
14 Con
7 Int
14 Wis
12 Cha
(20 Point Build)

I plan on mostly doing power attacks with a 2 handed weapon and have the cleric spells for buffing myself and the heals. I am trying to keep 18 str as the damage output is insane at lvl 1 IMO:
With power attack non rage:
2d6+9
With power attack & rage:
2d6+12

I like the barbarian rage, but wanted more versatility to the character so I looked into the Cleric but if you have better suggestions please let me know.

Dark Archive

You will need to use your headband slot for Wisdom increasing items (so no phylactery of positive channeling), but appart from that you should be fine you wont get blocked from casting spells at any level as long as you keep up with the headband.

Try and avoid spells that target opponents strong saves, focus more on buffs and no saving throw spells (which involve melee touch if you can).

atm I have a 18 St 14 int wizard and a 18 st 14 wis cleric and both work fine for everything because I understand where my weaknesses are and with the sheer size of the spell lists its easy to pick effective spells that dont require saves.


Thanks for all the help man appreciate it!

Now if only I new a way for it to make sense to have armored hulk heavy armor in a 1898 boston campaign lol... Or a way to disguise the armor.. or convince my DM lol.

I needed to be tanky enough to take the hit and it makes the most sense to take armored hulk, even if I went light armor I don't have enough dex to support it and not sure what I can balance to increase my dex as well. I'd rather be heavy armored but need to come up with a good reason lol.


Can a person cast the rage spell and then enter a barbarian rage?

Can a person cast enlarge person and then mighty strength to quadruple there size?

I can cast spells when enlarged / raged correct?

Dark Archive

1. Yes and Yes however they are both morale bonuses to ST and Con so they wont stack, its better to just rage

2. Mighty strength (the cleric spell) doesnt increase your size it gives you a +8 enhancement bonus to strength (which wont stack with belts or bulls strength, however +8 is more than a belt can ever give you), you could enlarge afterwards but you would only be large with a +8 enhancement and +2 size bonus to strength (not huge).

3. Enlarged yes, Raging no unless you take the urban barbarian archtype and use controlled rage (slightly lower stat increases but you can still cast)


Sorry I was thinking of righteous might which increases my size I think I can use that with enlarge size to become huge! : O Thanks for bringing mighty strength to my attention, I like that one.

So can I use all the following spells at the same time in theory:
Enlarge Person -> Righteous Might -> Bull's Strength -> Controlled Rage or Rage spell?

The more I look at it straight up clerics rock! It may be better just to go straight Battle Cleric (Get greatsword from Diety, and can go Theologian Ferocious Strength) instead of taking a MC for just controlled rage and a few extra hp, what do you think? Although it may make more sense for my campaign to be a barbarian first then cleric, something for me to ponder about.

How come mighty strength won't stack with a belt of strength or bull strength?

My rage spell gives me standard rage effects not controlled rage correct?


Will the bonus of the feat listed below take affect if I miss:
Shield of Swings
Prerequisites: Str 13, Power Attack, base attack bonus +1.

Benefit: When you take a full-attack action while wielding a two-handed weapon, you can choose to reduce the damage by 1/2 to gain a +4 shield bonus to AC and CMD until the beginning of your next turn. The reduction in damage applies until the beginning of your next turn.

Which do you think would be better Selective Channeling with 13 Cha or Shield of Swings with 14 Dex?

Thanks,


If I have 2 domains I only get 1 spell to choose for a domain spell slot or does this go up and how so?

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