Throwing or dropping damage with ant haul


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i was curious if you could use ant haul to carry and then drop or throw your load. i can't seem to find any information anywhere that is even closely related to this idea.

assuming i can't throw it (which i am) how do you calculate damage for an extremely heavy item that has been dropped or thrown at someone/thing??

thanks!


have i stumped you guys and gals or is this just a remarkably stupid question?? :D

buckledup wrote:

i was curious if you could use ant haul to carry and then drop or throw your load. i can't seem to find any information anywhere that is even closely related to this idea.

assuming i can't throw it (which i am) how do you calculate damage for an extremely heavy item that has been dropped or thrown at someone/thing??

thanks!

Dark Archive

Falling Objects Damage

I would start with the link above. Also remember that the item you drop is an "improvised weapon" and follows the rules below:

Quote:
Improvised Weapons: Sometimes objects not crafted to be weapons nonetheless see use in combat. Because such objects are not designed for this use, any creature that uses an improvised weapon in combat is considered to be nonproficient with it and takes a –4 penalty on attack rolls made with that object. To determine the size category and appropriate damage for an improvised weapon, compare its relative size and damage potential to the weapon list to find a reasonable match. An improvised weapon scores a threat on a natural roll of 20 and deals double damage on a critical hit. An improvised thrown weapon has a range increment of 10 feet.

So, it would be a -4 on the attack, and damage based on size and distance dropped. (1/2 damage for under 30', x2 damage for over 150') .


great start! where could i translate those sizes into weights? with ant haul and/or lighten object a moderate str score could lift/drop some pretty ridiculously sized items.

The Exchange

Combat maneuver. Either dirty trick for some lighter stuff or a pseudo grapple (quick grapple to pin ASAP and do damage).

Either way it provokes


the scenario i'm thinkin is either siege defense or ambush type scenario.

using an extremely large object 1200+ pounds to drop/roll/toss towards a single large foe or a clustered group of enemies.

if the context helps.


should be a large object (up to 4000 lbs)dealing 4d6 if dropped at least 30ft. half damage if less than 30 and double damage if more than 150.

requires touch attack to hit and a DC 15 reflex to dodge the attack if they are aware.

i think my question has been solved. thanks folks :D

Dark Archive

buckledup wrote:
great start! where could i translate those sizes into weights? with ant haul and/or lighten object a moderate str score could lift/drop some pretty ridiculously sized items.

There is going to be some GM call for that. My start would be to compare the size of the object to a monster from the bestiary. This will at least give you a rough size.

For example, a heavy horse is a size L creature and weighs (per the Bestiary) between 1000 and 1500 lbs.

Dropping a dead horse on someone from 40' would do about 4d6 damage. Dropping the same horse from 200' would do 8d6 and dropping it from 20' would do about 2d6. (possibly less due to the "squishy" aspect of the horse)

Sczarni

Hows this for dropping damage:

Step 1 cast Create Pit
Step 2 have Rogue empty Bag of Holding full of Alchemist Fire Flasks into Pit
Step 3 win

=b

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