Alienation, Feeling Disconnected From Yourself


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Do you ever feel alienated, even when a part of you is aware of the fact that you really don’t have a reason to feel this way?

Do you sometimes feel that you cannot talk to anyone, not because you feel no one is hearing what you want to say but because you don’t trust your own ability to express what you are feeling?

Do you experience a sort of fear that comes from a sense that you might discover that you are actually pretending to be something that you are not, and someday everyone is going to see you for what you really are, but you don’t know, right now, what that is?

Do you think a person can have a subtle awareness that they are losing touch with reality, see themselves becoming something they do not want to be but find that they are paralyzed or are otherwise incapable of changing course?

Can anyone help me find clinical research that is germane to the questions posted above? I’ve heard the term “Malaise” has been used to describe the feelings I am asking about, but is there another term that more accurately describes this sense of alienation?

I am writing a novel (the third one in a series of five books) and I am struggling with one of the characters. The answers to these questions might help me find a way to write this character. The first and second drafts of the novel still seem to be missing something specific about this character, so I am looking for help, and I would appreciate any comments about the subject.

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Terquem wrote:
Do you ever feel alienated, even when a part of you is aware of the fact that you really don’t have a reason to feel this way?
Yes. People are generally hells of accepting, but sometimes they don't seem to notice you.
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Do you sometimes feel that you cannot talk to anyone, not because you feel no one is hearing what you want to say but because you don’t trust your own ability to express what you are feeling?
I don't feel that I can't talk to anyone, but I do sometimes feel that I'm really bad at conveying myself.
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Do you experience a sort of fear that comes from a sense that you might discover that you are actually pretending to be something that you are not, and someday everyone is going to see you for what you really are, but you don’t know, right now, what that is?
Not really. I worried something like that when I was younger, though.
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Do you think a person can have a subtle awareness that they are losing touch with reality, see themselves becoming something they do not want to be but find that they are paralyzed or are otherwise incapable of changing course?

Again, I used to worry about this, but it never happened.

Good luck on your novel; it sounds intriguing.


Novel number 3, is 80% complete (at around 45,000 words), but I have pretty much walked away from it, and it is looking like I will be walking away from writing in general. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.

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Marxists would use the term alienation. Sociologists might say the feelings are coming from a sort of anomie or refer you to Simmel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Simmel#Simmel_on_the_metropolis.

If you do google scholar searches along those lines you should find some clinical research. Dissociative disorders might be good too.

Non clinically, Charlotte Perkins Gilman writes about losing your mind in her short story: The Yellow Wallpaper and Camus writes about non-conformity to social norms in L'etranger.


Terquem wrote:
Do you ever feel alienated, even when a part of you is aware of the fact that you really don’t have a reason to feel this way?

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It's called Mescaline? >It is< the only way to fly.

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Terquem wrote:
Do you experience a sort of fear that comes from a sense that you might discover that you are actually pretending to be something that you are not, and someday everyone is going to see you for what you really are, but you don’t know, right now, what that is?

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It's called Impostor Syndrom

There are strategies to beat it.

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Terquem wrote:
Do you think a person can have a subtle awareness that they are losing touch with reality, see themselves becoming something they do not want to be but find that they are paralyzed or are otherwise incapable of changing course?

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um... have you ever ready any of H.P. Lovecraft's works ? To answer your question, it is pretty much like that.

I recommend "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward".

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Terquem wrote:
Can anyone help me find clinical research that is germane to the questions posted above? I’ve heard the term “Malaise” has been used to describe the feelings I am asking about, but is there another term that more accurately describes this sense of alienation

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Perhaps the feeling of alienation is true. Your person really, for real, is being alienated.

Check this out Dunning-Kruger effect

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Terquem wrote:
I am writing a novel (the third one in a series of five books) and I am struggling with one of the characters. The answers to these questions might help me find a way to write this character. The first and second drafts of the novel still seem to be missing something specific about this character, so I am looking for help, and I would appreciate any comments about the subject.

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Pretend your character is Cecila Gimenez ?

I would start here.

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Do you sometimes feel that you cannot talk to anyone, not because you feel no one is hearing what you want to say but because you don’t trust your own ability to express what you are feeling?

I think they call this being male.


Terquem wrote:
Do you ever feel alienated, even when a part of you is aware of the fact that you really don’t have a reason to feel this way?

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I'm pretty sure Heri' is not alone.

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Grand Magus wrote:

I'm pretty sure Heri' is not alone.

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Oh, the ennui!


After reading Bob's comments in the LGBT Gamer thread, I began to wonder if there is a tendency for gamers to feel disconnected at higher than average rates than non gamers, and if one of the things we have on our side, as gamers, is that we may be more apt at talking about our feelings than other people who are feeling the same kind of disassociation.

I know that I've been struggling for a long time now with these feelings, and the loss of regular gaming in my life has made it worse, while at the same time I am struggling to keep from making my feelings the topic of every discussion.

Are the friendships we make tenuous because some part of our relationship is based on role-play? Or is it possible that through role-play we find parts of ourselves we would not normally let others see easier to express, and this creates more heightened, more "immediate" feelings of close bonds that we over emphasize which itself leads to relationship termoil.

As role-players do we open ourselves up to others in ways we often are not emotionally mature enough to handle?

What are the consequences associated with a lifetime of role-playing should we find ourselves at middle age suddenly cut off from what is often a dynamic and intense, and often rewarding, hobby.

Are the friendships we make through this hobby at the same time more intense, potentially more rewarding, and more likely to cause us to feel a greater loss if we lose them?

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