So, civilians are technically back in charge, but the military gets to veto the leadership. Not really seeing how that's any better.
Still, more aliens.... Hard to go wrong with more aliens....
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Ah, didn't even know that Starship Troopers was a novel. Don't mind me, as you were, carry on...Gods now I feel old.
Did you know there was a Doctor Who before 2005? Or that John Carter is over 100 years old? (j/k, I hope)
I'm 32 and I'm British. My first Doctors were repeats featuring Peter Davidson and Tom Baker.
I hadn't heard of John Carter before I became a Paizonian.
Starship Troopers was released in 1959, it never became a famous book over here and the film itself was not a big-deal-with-loads-of-publicity film in the UK
You should also consider that things which are/were big/common/popular in your nation might not be so elsewhere.
32? Why you're a baby still! :P
I was mostly kidding. Besides I had an, odd, childhood of reading.
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My first Doctor was Tom Baker, my first companion Sarah Jane. (amusing note, Lis Sladden said in her autobiograpy she never saw The Hand of Fear until the 90's)I have wondered (sadly) how many people were exposed to the literary figures I cut my teeth on for the first time in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
Great comics, terrible film.
I had never read any Quatermain or John Carter but was aware of the characters and worlds they inhabited, Verne, Doyle, Stevenson, Stoker and Wells I had already read. I only know Fu Manchu from the films.
With so many sources for LoEG I would guess that most people don't have every reference point.
Sadly, a lot of people now will first encounter the Greek myths Robin Hood, King Arthur, Beowulf and more from terrible hollywood films. At least LoEG is a great piece of art in its own right and doesn't cheapen the originals in the way that so many tie-ins and rip-offs do.
I used to live in Nottingham and was always amused/saddened that, as far as I know, you can watch everything in this list without hearing an actual Nottingham accent.
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I used to live in Nottingham and was always amused/saddened that, as far as I know, you can watch everything in this list without hearing an actual Nottingham accent.On the other hand, given the time period, Robin wouldn't have been speaking English with a Nottingham accent, but Middle English and/or Norman French. It's all translated, so what difference does the accent make.
Because Nottingham is a major cultural/artistic/historic/finaincial/whatever centre for the UK but you never hear its voice portrayed in film, music or television (beyond a few local bands and one film from the 50s). The one time you might hope to hear that voice is in a Robin Hood film but instead you get a load of other stuff (most commmonly US or posh-Brit, with the odd bit of garbled, absurdness like Russel Crowe's portrayal).
Assuming you are American, could you watch [your choice of celebrated, historic American figure] with a German accent and not feel a little snubbed? Or at least disappointed?
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Re Falling Skies finale.
I do hope that History Professor Tom references Katyn when the Silurian (come on whovians, you thought the same thing) says he's there to help.
Re: Accents. I've been watching the unedited Top Gear episodes on Amazon, I don't catch all the references and accents, but I a) do understand a bit more and b) am facinated at all the derivitive accents coming from a small little islant.
Of course growing up in a small town in SE Ohio, my mind was blown watching Chef on PBS, a black man with an English accent was jarring.
Man, I remember I saw Les Miserables on West End and was baffled that the kids were speaking in some sort of 1920s Cockney accent instead of French.
Then there is the King Lear argument, should you do it in cavemen clothes or Elizabethan Era, or modern...
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Man, I remember I saw Les Miserables on West End and was baffled that the kids were speaking in some sort of 1920s Cockney accent instead of French.
Then there is the King Lear argument, should you do it in cavemen clothes or Elizabethan Era, or modern...
Really, cockney? That's weird.
I think Lear is a different case because it is written somewhat 'out of time'. I would definitely favour pre-Elizabethan though.
Edit: I think Lear has a similar situation to the Iliad.
It has elements of Archaic Greek (and indeed, probably Geometric and Proto-Geometric) politics and technology but also has Mycenaean weapons and a theoretically Mycenaean setting. The developments and disconnections create some strange anomolies (such as chariots jumping like horses). So, how do you portray the setting? Most people settle for replicating the mythic imagination of the Ancient Greeks. They takr their cue from Archaic and Classical Greek art.
You could discuss endlessly how 'authentic' that was but it seems like a satisfying conclusion to the problem.
Never, ever having Robin of or the Sherrif of speak in a recognisably Nottinghamian accent is not such a satisfying conclusion, to my mind and the mind of many others from that neck of the woods. Robin Hood would have been seaking Middle English / Norman French with a Nottingham accent of the period. It seems to me that the satisfying compromise/conclusion would be to simply speak modern-but-timeless English in a Nottingham accent. Certainly better than this or this.
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I used to live in Nottingham and was always amused/saddened that, as far as I know, you can watch everything in this list without hearing an actual Nottingham accent.On the other hand, given the time period, Robin wouldn't have been speaking English with a Nottingham accent, but Middle English and/or Norman French. It's all translated, so what difference does the accent make.
Because Nottingham is a major cultural/artistic/historic/finaincial/whatever centre for the UK but you never hear its voice portrayed in film, music or television (beyond a few local bands and one film from the 50s). The one time you might hope to hear that voice is in a Robin Hood film but instead you get a load of other stuff (most commmonly US or posh-Brit, with the odd bit of garbled, absurdness like Russel Crowe's portrayal).
Assuming you are American, could you watch [your choice of celebrated, historic American figure] with a German accent and not feel a little snubbed? Or at least disappointed?
But American History is short and the language hasn't changed that much. You could do most American history figures in the the language they actually spoke. If you're translating anyway, why use a modern accent from that area? If it was a film about the original Dutch settlers of New York, would a Brooklyn accent make any sense?
It's like making sure all the actors in a movie set in Paris speak English with a strong French accent and some common French words thrown in.
But nobody knows what a mythic Nottingham accent sounds like, however we do know what a Nottingham accent from the last 200 years sound like.
So why not stick as close as you can to the source? Why go to Modern America? Or rich areas of Surrey? Or made up Yorkshire/Irish/Scots accents?
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It's like making sure all the actors in a movie set in Paris speak English with a strong French accent and some common French words thrown in.
Except in the ways it isn't, the ones to do with time and understanding.
That said, I think a film set in Paris should be in French, with subtitles for those of us who don't speak the language.
And if anyone makes a Robin Hood film in Middle English, with subtitles, and uses magic to discover the old Nottingham accent... I am there.
On the other hand you could get the awesomeness which is this[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evof-iVDOwQ] [/url]
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So, civilians are technically back in charge, but the military gets to veto the leadership. Not really seeing how that's any better.
Still, more aliens.... Hard to go wrong with more aliens....
Made me think of late 20th century Turkey. Though with a small group of people, a coup is always a possibility.
Aside, it's amusing watching old SG-1 episodes and seeing Colin Cunningham as the straight laced Major Davis is funny. (Though Brad Kelly strains my theory that the Berserker's casting was an in joke.
Though Brad Kelly my theory that the Berserker's casting was an in joke.
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Though Brad Kelly my theory that the Berserker's casting was an in joke.?
Colin Cunningham, Ryan Robins and Lucianna Carro are all sci-fi alumn with long recurring characters. (Maj Davis from Stargate, Henrey Foss from Sanctuary and Kat from BSG.) I was wondering if putting them all in the Berserkers was meant as an injoke.
Kind of like with the remake of V, if I recognized an actor from a sci-fi show, they turned out to be an alien. (Laura Vanderoot, Morena Baccarin, Jane Badler (of course) Rekha Sharma, Lexa Doig, Alan Tudyk, etc)
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So, civilians are technically back in charge, but the military gets to veto the leadership. Not really seeing how that's any better.
Still, more aliens.... Hard to go wrong with more aliens....
Really? When did that happen? All I remember President Locke saying was that they insisted he step down from being majority leader and him offering the position to Tom. I don't remember anything about a veto clause.
Really? When did that happen? All I remember President Locke saying was that they insisted he step down from being majority leader and him offering the position to Tom. I don't remember anything about a veto clause.
The civilians elected a leader. The military said, "No. Choose someone else." How is that not exercising a veto?
Colin Cunningham, Ryan Robins and Lucianna Carro are all sci-fi alumn with long recurring characters. (Maj Davis from Stargate, Henrey Foss from Sanctuary and Kat from BSG.) I was wondering if putting them all in the Berserkers was meant as an injoke.
Kind of like with the remake of V, if I recognized an actor from a sci-fi show, they turned out to be an alien. (Laura Vanderoot, Morena Baccarin, Jane Badler (of course) Rekha Sharma, Lexa Doig, Alan Tudyk, etc)
The Berserkers are a detached element that gets to go on the interesting missions. The Berserkers are the PCs!
Care to make any guesses on who the new guys are? I assume that they're opponents of the Fishheads, so, beyond that?
And he is still the President, just not the leader of the majority party (think President and Speaker of the House).
No, I'm pretty sure he's just out....