Flotsam Domain Power sift for material components


Rules Questions


Can objects found/created by the sift power (Link) be used as material components?

For example could a 10th level cleric retrieve a bag or flask with mercury and phosphorous, plus powdered diamond and opal worth a total of 500 gp to be used as a material component for a symbol of healing?


Umbranus wrote:
Can objects found/created by the sift power (Link) be used as material components?
Sure, once they are repaired (or you're 12th level and are no longer fishing up broken stuff).
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For example could a 10th level cleric retrieve a bag or flask with mercury and phosphorous, plus powdered diamond and opal worth a total of 500 gp to be used as a material component for a symbol of healing?

No. You get "an object", not "a bag filled with precisely what you need".

Grand Lodge

Well, the power does not specify nonmagical.

Broken scrolls?


@BBT: A Scroll should work. Or, depending on how you interpret a broken potion, that as well. Or a nearly empty broken wand.

@VRMH: The broken part isn't that bad considering mending.

Are there rules for making diamond dust?
So could you get a broken diamond, repair it with mending and then turn it to dust and use that dust as material component?

If you use that power once in the evening, once in the morning getting a diamond and a opal you should be good to go with the symbol of healing.
That is if you can turn the precious stones to dust somehow.
Perhaps that's even easier as long as they are broken.

Sovereign Court

The power looks entertainingly abusive. It specifies "an object", so this particular spell is tricky because it lists a whole bunch of valuable objects, together worth that money.

If the spell listed a single expensive component, this power would presumably get past that. However, since the object has the Broken condition, it might not be ready for use rightaway (DM's ruling); luckily the domain gives you Make Whole as well...

Honestly, I think someone was asleep when that power was sneaked in. You could retrieve a potion every day, or a low-level wand. It's a money-making machine. Highly flavorful though.


Umbranus wrote:
Are there rules for making diamond dust?
No rules, no tools.
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That is if you can turn the precious stones to dust somehow.

There's always the Adventurers' Way of doing things: apply violence! Just hit the gems until they break - the fineness of "dust" isn't specified anywhere. Diamond probably have a crazy hardness, but that just means you have to apply more violence.


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With that I can deal:
If brute force doesn't solve your problems, you're not using enough.

Grand Lodge

What's the strength DC to crush a diamond?

Sovereign Court

Umbranus wrote:

With that I can deal:

If brute force doesn't solve your problems, you're not using enough.

Like the Monk Trapsense power? Run through the dungeon really fast and pray to the Improved Evasion/All Good Saves gods?


VRMH wrote:
Umbranus wrote:
Are there rules for making diamond dust?
No rules, no tools.

Craft Gemcutting (or profession gem cutting).

Master work Gem cutting tools (50 gp).

BTW with craft rules it takes a VERY long time.....

Or use Fabricate to turn raw diamond to diamond dust.

Grand Lodge

You could pull a He-Man move, and crush the diamond in you hands.

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