Banished Outsiders


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...by which I don't mean outsiders tossed back to their home planes via banishment, but rather the opposite: outsiders who've been banished from their home planes, and are now basically living as exiles on the Material Planes. You occasionally see NPC outsiders crop up with this background in the setting. I can think of a djinni exiled from the Plane of Air and a horned devil exiled from Hell just off the top of my head.

What might it mean for an outsider to be banished from its home plane? Does it just mean that someone higher up on the totem pole tossed them through a portal and told them not to come back, or might it have deeper ramifications? What happens if an exiled outsider does get kicked back home via banishment? Would it just be an extra-effective intimidation tactic, or might there be a more fundamental change that makes the magic go awry? Or it is possible for the assorted godlings of the Great Beyond to "burn a passport," changing the outsider's effective home plane to wherever it's been sent?

If an expatriate devil tries to summon allies from back home, does it have the normal chance of getting a response or has the hierarchy of Hell put out a burn notice on him?

Now, I readily admit that I'm really just thinking in mechanical terms about something that's certainly meant to be take as a scrap of background "fluff," so I don't expect that there's really going to be anything along the lines of "right" or "wrong" answers here. I'm just idly mulling the possibilities, myself. But what do you think?


I would imagine most simply whither away. The Shadow Plane seems to be everybody's favourite Siberia-equivalent, so Outsiders who get Banished yet can't actually return, might end up there. Or do go home, only to get thrown right back. Or die. Or get shunted elsewhere.

John Mangrum wrote:
What might it mean for an outsider to be banished from its home plane? Does it just mean that someone higher up on the totem pole tossed them through a portal and told them not to come back, or might it have deeper ramifications?
Most Outsiders are made from the very essence of their home Plane, I don't think you really can block their return there other than by threatening with fates worse than fates worse than death.
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If an expatriate devil tries to summon allies from back home, does it have the normal chance of getting a response or has the hierarchy of Hell put out a burn notice on him?

Would you want to be the Devil who is seen aiding the outcast, hm?


John Mangrum wrote:

If an expatriate devil tries to summon allies from back home, does it have the normal chance of getting a response or has the hierarchy of Hell put out a burn notice on him?

I imagine it would work and then they would turn on him.

Like VRMH said, Ousiders are made of the essence of their plane. The only way to make an outsider not return home would be to change it to a different type.

If you are a banished devil, it may be a good idea to invest in a ring of counter-spells and store dismissal in it :)

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