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No, You are considered to have the two weapon fighting feats for flurry of Blows. There for you can not take the feats to have them stack with it. You start at lvl one with a -1/-1 flurry because it incorporates it as if you are using two weapon fighting with it already.
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As if means you are already gaining the benefit of the referenced ability, but do not actually have it. If the monk already had TWF, he could qualify for feats that have it as a prereq. He does not have TWF, he has Flurry, which gives him the benefit of TWF with several distinct exceptions (full strength bonus to off-hand attacks, can substitute unarmed strikes for any attack in the sequence, only useable with certain weapons, etc.)
Flurry is not Two-Weapon Fighting, but gives you extra attacks as though you did have it, so they do not stack, since you are already gaining the benefit of Two-Weapon Fighting when you Flurry.
I doubt anyone will be able to find the specific wording, except for the bit about benefits from a single feat do not stack multiple times unless the feat explicitly states it, but let's assume someone attempts to counter that RAW argument.
For all of below, when I refer to TWF, I mean "the TWF feat chain".
A monk without TWF has a number of choices when using the full attack action:
1) Use normal monk itterative attacks at monk BAB.
2) Use multiple weapons as if fighting with two weapons, at normal monk BAB, but with the standard -4/-10 penalties.
3) Use FOB to reduce the fighting with two weapons penalties to -2/-2, gain full Str damage bonus with all attacks, use BAB = Monk Level.
A monk with TWF has similar choices - for monk weapons and unarmed, he is treated as if he already has TWF, the benefits of which do not stack with itself.
1) Use normal monk itterative attacks at monk BAB.
2) Use multiple weapons, using TWF, at normal monk BAB, with -2/-2 penalties.
3) Use FOB with unarmed or monk weapon at -2/-2, gain full Str damage bonus with all attacks, use BAB = Monk Level.
TWF does not stack with itself, so the extra attacks obtained (and attack penalty reduction) from FOB cannot stack with TWF.
Does flurry of blows stack with two-weapon fighting for the attack bonuses?
The description for flurry says that you can make attacks as if using TWF, and TWF simply says that the penalties are lessened by 2 for main hand and 6 for off hand, but since monks don’t get an off hand it would both be 2. Neither one says anything about the other. Does this mean that at level one a monk with TWF would Flurry at a total attack bonus of +1/+1?
The phrasing on Flurry of Blows is known to be broken. The intent of the Pathfinder developers was that Flurry of Blows be a variant of Two-Weapon Fighting. Unfortunately, they copied some phrasing from the D&D 3.5 Flurry of Blows that suggests otherwise (I believe that part about monks don't have an off hand is an example). The developers need a few months of careful consideration to decide upon a correct phrasing, so the matter is not yet resolved.
For more details than anyone wants to read, see the Flurry of Blows controversy.
Flurry of Blows is either a unique class ability that does not stack with Two-Weapon Fighting, or it is a variant of Two-Weapon Fighting, so it does not stack with Two-Weapon Fighting.
Does flurry of blows stack with two-weapon fighting for the attack bonuses?
The description for flurry says that you can make attacks as if using TWF, and TWF simply says that the penalties are lessened by 2 for main hand and 6 for off hand, but since monks don’t get an off hand it would both be 2. Neither one says anything about the other. Does this mean that at level one a monk with TWF would Flurry at a total attack bonus of +1/+1?
This seems basic unless I am missing something.
Both Flurry and Two weapon fighting are "full round actions"
you cannot take two "full round actions" on your turn.
make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action.
If you get more than one attack per round because your
base attack bonus is high enough (see Base Attack Bonus
in Chapter 3), because you fight with two weapons or a
double weapon, or for some special
reason, you must use
a full-round action to get your additional
attacks.
There's also the fact that the Two Weapon Fighting feat doesn't actually give you an extra attack. Anyone can fight with two weapons, they just take massive penalties (-6/-10, or -4/-8). All the TWF feat itself does is reduce those penalties to either -4/-4 or -2/-2. So the best case scenario for it stacking with itself is reducing your mainhand penalty by another 2 and your offhand penalty by another 6, resulting in -2/-0 or -0/-0. You still wouldn't get another attack. And even this best case scenario would be (rightly) blocked by the line that says a feat doesn't stack with itself.
It is worth noting that under 3.5 rules, flurry specifically could stack with the TWF chain. But it also worked entirely differently.
It is very true that the Two-Weapon Fighting feat does not grant any additional attacks.
However, it's important to consider that the Improved and Greater versions -do- grant extra attacks.
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It is very true that the Two-Weapon Fighting feat does not grant any additional attacks.
However, it's important to consider that the Improved and Greater versions -do- grant extra attacks.
Flurry advances to the improved and greater TWF as you advance in monk levels, as detailed under FoB. It's accounted for in the Flurry description. However, a monk could not use FoB to qualify for Imp. and Greater TWf, because he does not actually have TWF, the prereq for the later feats.
lol you wouldn't hit anything.
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Would you be able to point out the specific wording that says they do not stack? Also the Two-Weapon Fighting feat does not give you the extra attack, it just lessens the penalty for fighting with two weapons.
From the feats section of the PRD:
"Benefit: What the feat enables the character (“you” in the feat description) to do. If a character has the same feat more than once, its benefits do not stack unless indicated otherwise in the description."Emphasis mine.
From the Monk:
Flurry of Blows (Ex): Starting at 1st level, a monk can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action. When doing so he may make one additional attack using any combination of unarmed strikes or attacks with a special monk weapon (kama, nunchaku, quarterstaff, sai, shuriken, and siangham) as if using the Two-Weapon Fighting feat (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat). For the purpose of these attacks, the monk's base attack bonus from his monk class levels is equal to his monk level. For all other purposes, such as qualifying for a feat or a prestige class, the monk uses his normal base attack bonus.
At 8th level, the monk can make two additional attacks when he uses flurry of blows, as if using Improved Two-Weapon Fighting (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat).
At 15th level, the monk can make three additional attacks using flurry of blows, as if using Greater Two-Weapon Fighting (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat).
A monk applies his full Strength bonus to his damage rolls for all successful attacks made with flurry of blows, whether the attacks are made with an off-hand or with a weapon wielded in both hands. A monk may substitute disarm, sunder, and trip combat maneuvers for unarmed attacks as part of a flurry of blows. A monk cannot use any weapon other than an unarmed strike or a special monk weapon as part of a flurry of blows. A monk with natural weapons cannot use such weapons as part of a flurry of blows, nor can he make natural attacks in addition to his flurry of blows attacks.
Makes it very clear what the rules and intent are here. Anyone who actually read the description for Flurry of Blows should get that it is giving you the benfit of the TWF feats and does not stack with them.